Trading guide

[ewpayne]

Anyone know good tips for trading? Everything is random it seems and trying to pin down what I can effectively trade for doesnt seem to work, especially after updates.

For example idk what to give to the 3day trader for his backpack upgrade.

[lordin1]

You should only trade things away, that you can either get easy or you don't need.
Easy processed goods are especially useful when you have the efficiency upgrade(less mats for a thing to craft). I resorted to trade now pistol ammo as the price increased so much for me, that the other mats didn't cut it anymore(with only 5 slots to put tradevalue in).
Wood(especially the processed variants)+scrap(robot get them a lot for me) the cloth(and the fabric out of it). After that trade I trade back pistol ammo for the mentioned things to have that value(even when I 'lose' more tradevalue with each additional trade).

One thing I have to admit: I have no clue how the price for backpack is calculated(time passed or unlocked slots?). So I would say: Get every backpack when you can, as either when it's a per unlocked price, then you don't lose out(as long as you don't sell your liver!), but when it's a passed time, then the first trades are the best for that.
Don't know if other traders change prices(I don't count in the story reading trader price buff) or not. THat I have to test out. NOw I'm close to my newgame and therefore can test out the trader better for his backpack price! For the other trading opportunities it's more of a what I have and what they have than the price they actually ask for.

[ewpayne]

Theres still an annoying thing where you HAVE to trade the whole stack of goods, rather then adding it one at a time. I cant split them up.

I remember in early access, making 3rd tier food was the best idea. But I traded [11] tier 2 foods and 12 homemade wine for a backpack upgrade so far.

[lordin1]

I'm not sure what you exactly mean. When you F on a stack of items(scrap x12) it will put x1 scrap into the trading slot(until full for the slot itself). The same can you do with F in reverse by clicking items in the trading slots to get back x1 item of the stack.

10 scrap for 1 potatoe - wow awesome
F 9 scrap for 1 potatoe - wow awesome
F 8 scrap for 1 potatoe - wow awesome
F 7 scrap for 1 potatoe - good
F 6 scrap for 1 potatoe - good
F 5 scrap for 1 potatoe - okay
F 4 scrap for 1 potatoe - okay
F 3 scrap for 1 potatoe - a bit more
(That is just an example not real trading!)
You can drag a stack of items to and from to move the whole thing.
I think you can Control+LMB a stack to fast add/remove. (for those that didn't know those fast shortcut infos)
A note from me: lvl 3 kitchen is quite hard to get(very special items) so I can understand that the best meal out of it is quite valuable.

[ewpayne]

I'll give that a try.

Yeah, they made level 3 benches considerably harder from early access. Which is ok with me. It was very profitable.

[lordin1]

Yeah lvl 3 kitchen takes a lot. Biggest problem for me is to make those O-items as they are locked behind lvl 5 workbench and use an item I never enocuntered before(didn't know to beat tentacle-chan for that). Now that I know how to get those I maybe can try it in my next game. Maybe that would make all those left-over little foodies useful.