* spoiler * About Majima's personality

[asynla]

First of all i am a little bit obsessive about fictional characters. I take them so serious than any other person. And i have to say i am not a fan of yakuza series. I am new here.

In these days i have a question in my mind. Before i played the game i saw some cutscenes of majima goro from other yakuza series. I was really amazed because he looked like a so badass and so careless so crazy and obsessive character. Then i played yakuza 0...

Unlike most of ppl, Majima in Yakuza 0 left a huge disappointment on me. It seems his personality tottaly opposite from other series and i really don't like it. And i don't like his relationship with makoto too. it was so cliche such that at some cutscenes i felt like i was gonna puke. it was like a soap opera. In short i don't like romantic and emotional characters thats my choice.

So my question is: is the mad side of him just all acting? has he really a mad side or he is just bluffing so he won't have to be scared or won't have to be deal with other yakuzas?

[asynla]

I think what writers did is a bad idea. Because people loved majima with his crazy personality. I think they shouldn't break that and they sholdn't turn him into a calm and serious guy.

[Nens]

Originally posted by asyla:

I think what writers did is a bad idea.

From what I understood you only played Yakuza 0 so how can you judge if that was bad or good idea? His personality in 0 is similar to his older self from other games so I don't see any problems here.

[asynla]

Originally posted by ResidentSleeper.:

The real reason: Majima started as a miniboss who appears only once in the entire Yakuza 1. He wasn't supposed to have any story but he's popular so they brought him back for 2..then 3.. As he got more popular he got less crazy and more serious. In 4, he no longer wears the golden jacket and instead wears a normal suit. Eventually his popularity surpassed Kiryu's so they made Yakuza 0 and made him a playable character. What you're seeing is the plot writers trying to backtrack on his initial design.

Can you read what he say? I'm just saying if he was crazy from beggining they should left him who he was. And the problem is Majima supposed to be different from other characters. But they turned him into regular, emotional, romantic guy.

[Gabriel Angelos]

How is that a bad thing that he has some development?

Kiryu on the other hand is just the same, stoic/good guy .

I actually really liked it and how Nishitani/Sagawa had an influence on his future personality.

[asynla]

Originally posted by Rimmer:

How is that a bad thing that he has some development?

are you really reading what i said? I said they turned him into a regular guy but ppl liked him for his crazy side.

Yeah Kiryu is a regular guy too but he has a pure, shy side too and when some characters fooling him he looks so funny and cute with his angry-look face expression.

It would be great if they develop Majima without killing his crazy side. By saying he is acting they mean "forget majima from early Yakuza series, he is just a regular, handsome guy with a sad past".

[asynla]

And there are tons of regular characters in yakuza but why they changed his personality by saying "he is acting" when he was the most interesting character in the series?

[Gabriel Angelos]

Originally posted by asyla:

Originally posted by Rimmer:

How is that a bad thing that he has some development?

are you really reading what i said? I said they turned him into a regular guy but ppl liked him for his crazy side.

Yeah Kiryu is a regular guy too but he has a pure, shy side too and when some characters fooling him he looks so funny and cute with his angry-look face expression.

It would be great if they develop Majima without killing his crazy side. By saying he is acting they mean "forget majima from early Yakuza series, he is just a regular, handsome guy with a sad past".

He was a regular guy who through life experiences decides to be more carefree and reckless. That sounds perfectly reasonable to me and adds more depth to the character.

[asynla]

he is not carefree or reckless he is just acting like that because he is scared of other yakuzas.

[asynla]

And that is writers choice. That's why i said it's a bad idea.

[Grant]

Kiryu does lots of wacky, crazy things because he is in a wacky, crazy game. It's the same for Majima, just turned up a lot. You could say that Agent 47 in Hitman is a goofball, but I think it is better to think of him as a serious character in a silly game.

I guess that means I have a different take than the OP: Majima has a serious personality, the storytellers do not. I didn't see anything in the game that suggests Majima is acting, generally. And - scenes where he does try to deceive Sagawa are not scenes where he acts crazy.

I agree that he's completely different, but I liked Yakuza 0's Majima. I agree that this game is a soap opera, and it's fine if you don't like it, but I'm pretty surprised if you, uh, just figured that out?

[asynla]

Originally posted by Grant:

Kiryu does lots of wacky, crazy things because he is in a wacky, crazy game. It's the same for Majima, just turned up a lot. You could say that Agent 47 in Hitman is a goofball, but I think it is better to think of him as a serious character in a silly game.

I guess that means I have a different take than the OP: Majima has a serious personality, the storytellers do not. I didn't see anything in the game that suggests Majima is acting, generally. And - scenes where he does try to deceive Sagawa are not scenes where he acts crazy.

I agree that he's completely different, but I liked Yakuza 0's Majima. I agree that this game is a soap opera, and it's fine if you don't like it, but I'm pretty surprised if you, uh, just figured that out?

i've watched this video and looked to the comments and i am so confused right now :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UKv2wADQvc

[Nens]

Originally posted by asyla:

he is just acting like that because he is scared of other yakuzas.

Ummm what?

Please just play other games. I really don't understand why you love "crazy" Majima so much if you didn't even play anything except 0.

[asynla]

Originally posted by Nens:

Originally posted by asyla:

he is just acting like that because he is scared of other yakuzas.

Ummm what?

Please just play other games. I really don't understand why you love "crazy" Majima so much if you didn't even play anything except 0.

I will play other Yakuza series. I really wish to know why do you love "regular" majima so much.

[Nens]

Well, he is fan favorite for a reason.
I like him in all games (except 6 because he was heavily underused there like most of old characters) and his character development in 5 and 0 is great.
I don't have problem with you not liking him in 0 (tho I totally disagree that he is a boring regular dude), people have preferences and that's fine.

I think what writers did is a bad idea

That's my problem. You are judging something based on one game without knowing rest of the story in this pretty big franchise.

he is not carefree or reckless he is just acting like that because he is scared of other yakuzas.

And that's another thing that shows that you are pretty clueless.

[DEFINITELY ARNOLD]

Nothing wrong with Majima's development (for me at least), and this is my first time playing Yakuza series.

Spoiler here:

Majima lost his sworn brother, he was punished, betrayed and tortured. He was removed from Yakuza and he will do anything to come back to be a yakuza again.

This is why he was trapped in Sotenbori and being monitor by Sagawa's men.
I was soo annoyed how Sagawa monitored Majima 24/7, even Majima disliked him.

Sagawa ordered Majima for a big large sum of money (again) and to kill Makoto.
He couldn't kill Makoto, he developed love and he make sure she was safe.
Majima was dumbfounded when he was a tool all along when Sagawa and Majima met with Futoshi Shimano, even Sagawa didn't know.

Being watched all day and Sotenbori was Majima's cage. He had to listen to Sagawa's order, and to always ABC (to be always in contact to each other <During the Dialogue in-game>). Sagawa was super pissed off when Majima vanished twice. It's like having an abusive owner who use his authoritative.

Majima "Mad Dog" Goro.
Majima got his name as "Mad Dog" when everything is over, he was free from Sagawa's leash.
He was finally free, he did not have to listen to Sagawa's order anymore and nobody was gonna to monitor Majima. He did not feel any restraint, he can do anything now, free from his cage and be crazy now. He finally released his outburst of anger and craziness.

"Mad Dog" is a metaphor, and Majima won't be a "Mad Dog" if he was constantly watched and being on his leash.

For me, I like Majima's transformation.