I gave up and bought the PS4 version.

[TheAbsol]

Since Square Enix seems disinterested in removing Denuvo, I bought Royal Edition on PS4. ShadPS4 is improving rapidly, so I may be able to play this on my Steam Deck. I recently picked up a PS4 Slim with FW<11.0 specifically for reasons like this. Come on, Square Enix. This game is old now.

[Bobby]

Piracy never ends though, does it?
Doesn't matter how old games are. they are still IP's and it's on sale. Therefore it still a viable product.
Your PS4 and all consoles have DRM also. You own nothing but a license.

I'm old enough to have physical copies of games that *don't* need the internet or any form of DRM.
The most DRM they used to have was a question in the manual you owned with the game; For eg 'how many children did Alex have' on Page 4. You answered it by typing it in the games question. Then you played it. It would randomise questions every time you played.
So you had to have a copy of the manual to play a 'stolen' game.
Back then nobody was going to print off hundreds of pages and go down to a shop to do it!

This is before the internet turned into a cesspool.

Now thanks to the internet and hackers that don't give a ♥♥♥♥, we have anti-piracy measures.
People used to have morals and would borrow a game from a friend, like it and buy it for the glorious manual etc -some of the manuals i have are spiral bound and go into 600+ pages like the Falcon 4 manual.

Put it this way, your not going to give away anything of value you own -regardless of age, are you? So Denuvo affects everyone.
If you don't want it, then it's simply a case of not buying it.
even GoG doesn't sell it

[TheAbsol]

Originally posted by Bobby:

Piracy never ends though, does it?
Doesn't matter how old games are. they are still IP's and it's on sale. Therefore it still a viable product.
Your PS4 and all consoles have DRM also. You own nothing but a license.

I'm old enough to have physical copies of games that *don't* need the internet or any form of DRM.
The most DRM they used to have was a question in the manual you owned with the game; For eg 'how many children did Alex have' on Page 4. You answered it by typing it in the games question. Then you played it. It would randomise questions every time you played.
So you had to have a copy of the manual to play a 'stolen' game.
Back then nobody was going to print off hundreds of pages and go down to a shop to do it!

This is before the internet turned into a cesspool.

Now thanks to the internet and hackers that don't give a ♥♥♥♥, we have anti-piracy measures.
People used to have morals and would borrow a game from a friend, like it and buy it for the glorious manual etc -some of the manuals i have are spiral bound and go into 600+ pages like the Falcon 4 manual.

Put it this way, your not going to give away anything of value you own -regardless of age, are you? So Denuvo affects everyone.
If you don't want it, then it's simply a case of not buying it.
even GoG doesn't sell it

This game shipped without Denuvo on the EXE file. There's really no reason for it to still have it. Piracy happens regardless and this only punishes the paying customer at the end of the day. It sucks that piracy is this bad, but a lot of those people were never going to be paying customers to begin with. Trying to force them into payment doesn't get publishers very far, especially when the pirates can shrug and play the other tens of thousands of games instead.

The difference between PS4 and Denuvo is that the DRM on PS4 is actually completely meaningless now with emulation. I'll ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ own my copy when it comes in the mail. If ShadPS4 compatibility is good enough, I could just load it up on my Steam Deck, DRM be damned. Denuvo doesn't give me that level of freedom. If I change my Proton settings, that counts as an extra install. Do it enough and it locks me out of the game for 24 hours. If there comes a point where this game came phone home anymore, it'll be completely unplayable. That's what I'm concerned about, and it's why I'm going with PS4 instead until Denuvo is removed.

[Halix]

Thumbs up for standing your ground and going with the PS4 version instead, no matter what your reasons may be to dislike Denuvo Anti-Tamper.

Going console is also a good option for those who do not like having kernel-level anti-cheat software on their PC (Personal Computer). Gaming consoles are mainly for gaming only. This game however does not come with a kernel level anti-cheat.

[TheAbsol]

Originally posted by Halix:

Thumbs up for standing your ground and going with the PS4 version instead, no matter what your reasons may be to dislike Denuvo Anti-Tamper.

Going console is also a good option for those who do not like having kernel-level anti-cheat software on their PC (Personal Computer). Gaming consoles are mainly for gaming only. This game however does not come with a kernel level anti-cheat.

It's apparently on the "nothing" page on ShadPS4's compatibility list. Sucks, but it'll gain compatibility. If Square Enix won't remove DRM, I'll find my own solution. I'm not really interested in modding, so emulation works for me.

[C]

Reported for promoting piracy.

[TheAbsol]

Originally posted by bloons achievement grinder:

Reported for promoting piracy.

I'm not promoting piracy, genius. I'm asking for a more consumer-friendly product.

[CheeseBoar]

Originally posted by TheAbsol:

I bought Royal Edition on PS4

Originally posted by bloons achievement grinder:

Reported for promoting piracy.

Read, people. Please.

Originally posted by Halix:

Thumbs up for standing your ground and going with the PS4 version instead, no matter what your reasons may be to dislike Denuvo Anti-Tamper.

Going console is also a good option for those who do not like having kernel-level anti-cheat software on their PC (Personal Computer). Gaming consoles are mainly for gaming only. This game however does not come with a kernel level anti-cheat.

Server-based DRM on the PC is pretty much the only reason I also keep a console around. The only reason I have FFXV on the PC is because Square Enix was nice enough to accidentally push a debug build without Denuvo, so I won't have to worry about asking permission to play my purchase in the future.

[TheAbsol]

Originally posted by CheeseBoar:

Originally posted by TheAbsol:

I bought Royal Edition on PS4

Originally posted by bloons achievement grinder:

Reported for promoting piracy.

Read, people. Please.

Originally posted by Halix:

Thumbs up for standing your ground and going with the PS4 version instead, no matter what your reasons may be to dislike Denuvo Anti-Tamper.

Going console is also a good option for those who do not like having kernel-level anti-cheat software on their PC (Personal Computer). Gaming consoles are mainly for gaming only. This game however does not come with a kernel level anti-cheat.

Server-based DRM on the PC is pretty much the only reason I also keep a console around. The only reason I have FFXV on the PC is because Square Enix was nice enough to accidentally push a debug build without Denuvo, so I won't have to worry about asking permission to play my purchase in the future.

I may at least consider buying it on a sale and downgrading it to the launch version. But, I also already have the PS4 version.

[ganjafiut]

Originally posted by Charles Tamzarian:

Reported for promoting piracy.

reading comprehension of a blind toddler