No automatic subs when you start the game, is square even trying anymore?

[Mr Fantastic]

Most people will select english subs and japanese voices, why doesn't the game automatically set subtitles?

You start the game and it's all in japanese with no subtitles, what's the point of picking a language at the start then?

[Mako]

Any actual proof about "most people"? To me this makes absolutely zero sense. Japanese audio and english text dont match. Its not a direct translation and was not meant to be, its the case with most SQEX games. Hearing one thing and reading another in subtitles is weird. And if you dont understand spoken japanese why set it as audio? Just to have some foreign gibberish in your ears?

[Shun]

Originally posted by Mako:

Any actual proof about "most people"? To me this makes absolutely zero sense. Japanese audio and english text dont match. Its not a direct translation and was not meant to be, its the case with most SQEX games. Hearing one thing and reading another in subtitles is weird. And if you dont understand spoken japanese why set it as audio? Just to have some foreign gibberish in your ears?

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean people can't enjoy hearing different languages. What if someday that gibberish turns to sentences they can understand, the heresy.

I have to agree with you that most people don't use subs in this game, but that and your preferences don't make enjoying foreign cultures any less valid.

[Shun]

Originally posted by Mr Fantastic:

You start the game and it's all in japanese with no subtitles, what's the point of picking a language at the start then?

If you would've picked english then you'd have english with no subs, most games just have them off by default. I can't count the amount of times i had to search for subtitles in audio options menus.

[Mako]

Originally posted by Just Some Weeb:

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean people can't enjoy hearing different languages. What if someday that gibberish turns to sentences they can understand, the heresy.

In that case what you hear and what you see wont match. The game was not translated to english. It was localized. And there is only one set of english subs, it matches localized spoken dialogue. For some games you can find mods that actually have translated subtitles. Im not sure if such a mod exists for FF15,
I didnt say you should not enjoy it. But I have my doubts about "most people" chosing this route. And in any case its a "problem" that can be fixed in less than one minute by going into options. BTW most SQEX games dont even allow dual audio, this is rare exception.

[Mr Fantastic]

Why does the game ask me the subs language if it's not gonna turn them on or ask me about it as well? Makes zero sense.

[Mako]

It asks for text language (for entire UI), not just subs. Automatically enabling subs that dont match spoken words makes zero sense.

[Shun]

Originally posted by Mako:

In that case what you hear and what you see wont match. The game was not translated to english. It was localized.

And that's the fun, you basically play spot the differences with languages. I play Fallout 4 with a mod to make Curie speak french and i'm having fun with it. Sometimes the french version butchers something she says other times it's a pinpoint translation. Not everyone needs FF7 fan re-translation type mods to enjoy games.

[Mr Fantastic]

Originally posted by Mako:

It asks for text language (for entire UI), not just subs. Automatically enabling subs that dont match spoken words makes zero sense.

Wrong, it makes all the sense.

[Handoiron]

Originally posted by Mr Fantastic:

Wrong, it makes all the sense.

The setting has nothing at all to do with subtitle on/off status. There is an entirely different setting selection that deals with that.

Simply selecting what language you want used should not ever automatically turn subtitles on. Having it do so would make no sense whatsoever.

In fact, 99.99999% of all players with a brain will select their native language (or at least the language they're most likely to understand) for this setting so turning subtitles on automatically when a language is selected would be a stupid effect.

[Mr Fantastic]

Originally posted by Handoiron:

Originally posted by Mr Fantastic:

Wrong, it makes all the sense.

The setting has nothing at all to do with subtitle on/off status. There is an entirely different setting selection that deals with that.

Simply selecting what language you want used should not ever automatically turn subtitles on. Having it do so would make no sense whatsoever.

In fact, 99.99999% of all players with a brain will select their native language (or at least the language they're most likely to understand) for this setting so turning subtitles on automatically when a language is selected would be a stupid effect.

why does it ask for subtitle language then if it doesn't ask whether it should be turned on?

Have you thought a single second about that?

[Handoiron]

Originally posted by Mr Fantastic:

why does it ask for subtitle language then if it doesn't ask whether it should be turned on?

Have you thought a single second about that?

Alright... because you don't seem at all familiar with the game's settings I'll explain it to you.

There is no subtitle language setting in the game at all so it does not ever ask you for a subtitle language setting.

The only language settings that exist in the game are for ALL spoken words and ALL text.

So, having the selection of a language for ALL text in the game automatically turn subtitles on whether or not you want them on makes absolutely no sense.

Have you spent a single second looking at the in game settings?