This game's second half is really weak *SPOILERS*

[Rukk]

First things first, I didn't care about a single character in this game outside the main four (and maybe Iris, though she's criminally underused like the other secondary characters). From the little I've seen of Lunafreya, she's pretty much a Mary Sue, so I couldn't really get behind her love story with Noctis (or lack thereof). Her death scene just got a "meh" response from me, the overly emotional cutscene portraying it didn't feel warranted considering you literally don't spend any time with her in the game (the battle with Leviathan sure felt epic though, I'll give the game that).

Anyways, about the second half... this game really takes a huge hit in quality after chapter 9, everything afterwards feels rushed. I had no idea who the villain was supposed to be up until that point, then all of a sudden I'm being rushed towards the endgame in a train (boy, did I get sick of that train). I was really enjoying this game until I got to that point. I can't picture myself playing through it second time, because those particular chapters are very painful to get through (especially after they force a gimped Ignis on you). Also, the nonsensical dog time travel thing is one of the weirdest mechanics I've ever seen to return to an area and do side quests. That second half feels even more disconnected because of it.

All in all, this is the weakest story I've experienced in a Final Fantasy game. Should have listened to the warnings, I guess :\

[zachillios]

It definitely is weak story wise, and the reason the second half felt was weak due to the second half not being done, and they rushed it like mad to meet Square Enix's release window. Now they have gone back and patched a few story elements during that, that whole section would need a redo.

[tenbones]

Yeah I don't understand why this game has such a high rating, the story is easily the worst of any FF game that I've played.

[Soulgain]

Originally posted by Zera:

All in all, this is the weakest story I've experienced in a Final Fantasy game. Should have listened to the warnings, I guess :\

I say there is nothing wrong in experiencing flaws of a game of your favorite series. But that's just me saying for myself, and maybe it's the same for you in the end.

[Rukk]

It's too bad, I definitely see a lot of wasted potential in this game. They crafted a beautiful world, and it didn't feel like a chore at all to explore it. Chocobos are very useful for going around this time, which I appreciated (though the frequent imperial encounters got annoying fast). The combat isn't too bad either, it definitely feels very intense at times. If the FFVII remake has this kind of combat, I won't mind at all.

Still, I don't see what mods can really do for this game. At best a more challenging experience, but the story and pacing problems will remain no matter what.

[Zefar]

The reason you don't learn about Ardyn motivation early on is because he should be a mystery and you should wonder what his deal is. The team talks about this several times and it's only revealed towards the end what he actually wants.

It would kinda ruin the game if by chapter 4 you have a long cut scene with Ardyn just spewing out his master plan and everything.

[Hendumaica]

Originally posted by Molester Stallone:

Yeah I don't understand why this game has such a high rating, the story is easily the worst of any FF game that I've played.

Because the rating is based on the experience not comparaison to other FFs?

[tenbones]

Originally posted by Hendumaica:

Originally posted by Molester Stallone:

Yeah I don't understand why this game has such a high rating, the story is easily the worst of any FF game that I've played.

Because the rating is based on the experience not comparaison to other FFs?

But... it's still terrible on its own?

[Bankai9212]

Honestly, the second half actually has some stacks and decent pacing. But like you said we hardly get anytime to know the characters to really care all that much. Heck if umbra is able to take you to the past, why not warp back and prevent the events in insomnia?

[Sofia]

The problem with Luna is that she has no buildup.

"Mary Sue" from the perspective of the story is mostly correct. But if she had her own story and build up you'd understand there's a lot more to her, and her powers make sense.

The Oracle is the spellcaster equivalent to the King. The King can do all sorts of really cool things, mostly relating to weapons and the Crystal. The Oracle is equivalent to the King, but she deals with magic and the Astrals instead.

In terms of powers she's no more a Mary Sue than Noctis or Regis are, but the problem is that the game builds her up very very poorly.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Spawk:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Honestly, the second half actually has some stacks and decent pacing. But like you said we hardly get anytime to know the characters to really care all that much. Heck if umbra is able to take you to the past, why not warp back and prevent the events in insomnia?

Decent pacing? Seriously? Chapter 10 through 15 have you:

- Repeatedly wander around a train with nothing to do but watch cutscenes

- Run around an uninspired, empty excavation site with zero backstory while also constantly being reminded to go slow

- Wander around for hours in a massive, empty, wholly uninspired blue-grey military complex with nothing to do but slooowly move around while slooowly killing enemies with gimped combat abilities

- Walk around a lifeless Insomnia with nothing to do but optional fetch quests and a straight walk to the final boss gauntlet.


Those last five chapters were basically a walking simulator interspersed with cutscenes. It couldn't be more obvious they were padding the game. It was agony. I was so bored.

You are referring to chapters 3-9 which had padded content everywhere. As rushed as the last few chapters are there is a far better story focused then 70% of the game.

[Lestatdelioncort]

Originally posted by Spawk:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Honestly, the second half actually has some stacks and decent pacing. But like you said we hardly get anytime to know the characters to really care all that much. Heck if umbra is able to take you to the past, why not warp back and prevent the events in insomnia?

Decent pacing? Seriously? Chapter 10 through 15 have you:

- Repeatedly wander around a train with nothing to do but watch cutscenes

- Run around an uninspired, empty excavation site with zero backstory while also constantly being reminded to go slow

- Wander around for hours in a massive, empty, wholly uninspired blue-grey military complex with nothing to do but slooowly move around while slooowly killing enemies with gimped combat abilities

- Walk around a lifeless Insomnia with nothing to do but optional fetch quests and a straight walk to the final boss gauntlet.


Those last five chapters were basically a walking simulator interspersed with cutscenes. It couldn't be more obvious they were padding the game. It was agony. I was so bored.

Insomnia is suppose to be lifeless..... the whole world is suppose to be lifeless, it's in ruins. sounds like you were just bad at the game and not paying attention. Gimped combat? where you just "holding circle" that might be why you were dying so much.
You are on the train to get the royal arms from the tomb, and to get to the crystal at the capital of Niflheim, Gralea. How else are they gonna get there? It would be pretty Jarring if it just went from Altissia to Nifleheim and all the sudden prompto was gone. Were you even paying attention.

Those "empty" bases have weapons for prompto and a useful weapon for breaking parts for noctis.

And wtf do you mean by "go slow" if you are talking about the stealth stuff you don't have to stealth, only time you have to is when your following the general. That's also one of my favorite parts because of the aerial battle you can do with aranea. Do you even have the game? Do you even have the game? Or are you one of those ResetEra "I hate japanese games" people.

[Lestatdelioncort]

Originally posted by Spawk:

Originally posted by Lestatdelioncort:

Insomnia is suppose to be lifeless..... the whole world is suppose to be lifeless, it's in ruins. sounds like you were just bad at the game and not paying attention. Gimped combat? where you just "holding circle" that might be why you were dying so much.
You are on the train to get the royal arms from the tomb, and to get to the crystal at the capital of Niflheim, Gralea. How else are they gonna get there? It would be pretty Jarring if it just went from Altissia to Nifleheim and all the sudden prompto was gone. Were you even paying attention.

Those "empty" bases have weapons for prompto and a useful weapon for breaking parts for noctis.

And wtf do you mean by "go slow" if you are talking about the stealth stuff you don't have to stealth, only time you have to is when your following the general. That's also one of my favorite parts because of the aerial battle you can do with aranea. Do you even have the game? Or are you one of those ResetEra "I hate japanese games" people.

You're the reason Final Fantasy is dying.

yeah this guy didn't even read what I put down he just responded right away as soon as i pressed post comment. This ones a troll folks.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Spawk:

Originally posted by Lestatdelioncort:

Insomnia is suppose to be lifeless..... the whole world is suppose to be lifeless, it's in ruins. sounds like you were just bad at the game and not paying attention. Gimped combat? where you just "holding circle" that might be why you were dying so much.
You are on the train to get the royal arms from the tomb, and to get to the crystal at the capital of Niflheim, Gralea. How else are they gonna get there? It would be pretty Jarring if it just went from Altissia to Nifleheim and all the sudden prompto was gone. Were you even paying attention.

Those "empty" bases have weapons for prompto and a useful weapon for breaking parts for noctis.

And wtf do you mean by "go slow" if you are talking about the stealth stuff you don't have to stealth, only time you have to is when your following the general. That's also one of my favorite parts because of the aerial battle you can do with aranea. Do you even have the game? Or are you one of those ResetEra "I hate japanese games" people.

You're the reason Final Fantasy is dying. You don't even recognize bad content.

Well based on that statement, most of ff15 has bad content which I would agree with. As for the previous post it's called telling a story, which up until that point was non-existant.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Spawk:

Originally posted by Lestatdelioncort:

yeah this guy didn't even read what I put down he just responded right away as soon as i pressed post comment. This ones a troll folks.

You can keep fanboying all you want, but chapter 10-15 are just development hell spitting in your face.

So the whole game then?

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Spawk:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

So the whole game then?

At least the first part of the game lets you travel through a world where you can explore and aren't confined to on-rail chapters that are very noticeably designed to extend the game. People like Lestatdelioncort in this thread think that loading the ending chapters with cutscenes somehow makes the obvious and agonizing padding okay. If you think what you're doing in terms of gameplay in those chapters is fun and well-paced, then they can sell you any video game, because you clearly don't care. Chapter 13 in particular feels like stepping back in ten 15 years in terms of game pacing.

Except nothing you do or fund has anything to do with the plot. They are all fetch quests if you were to do the main story you'd see how badly paced it was from the start. The open world segments has the worst kind of filler any open world game can have. Especially with everything that occurred in the previous chapter.