New Avatara Update may just be the worst thing I've ever laid my eyes on.

[Dr. Flat Soda]

I've never been let down so hard in my entire physical being. This is a metaphysical disappointment for me. Let's get right onto the main points of this update.

-Internet is required to change the appearance of your avatar

-Comrades saves and unlocks are meaningless to Avatara and nothing carries over.

-Can only find the initial ability to create your first character through random unspecified points on the map (i had to look at the update note screenshots to find the Kenny Crow NPC at Galdin Quay)

-Starting Avatar items, attire and clothes are so barebones, it makes The Division's starting items seem deep and varied. Only the Kingsglaive set, a t-shirt, and some khakis. And the default starting Comrades hairstyles.

-The only way to unlock more attires and items for your Avatar is through either playing an unexaggerated lottery after finding official treasures, finding and placing user treasures, (you can only place one a day and the longer it's not found the better the reward. If it's not found for some time, you get no rewards.) or sharing ingame photos on the map and obtaining enough likes earns you avatar items.

-Cannot edit avatar while riding the Regalia.

-Cannot summon anything (sorry, scratch this whole bulletpoint off. It's a bug not intentional.)

-Dying reverts your appearance back to Noctis. (And they're extremely vague about this on ingame messages and release notes.) "Noctis reverts back to his original appearance when he gets excited or faints" whatever the flying hell that means besides game over.

-Update was only announced ONCE during PAX presentation and were EXTREMELY vague on it and said nothing else about the update until the day it released. I swear, they only explained that an Avatar editor is coming soon and showed a thirty second video of Kenny Crow riding the Regalia and running around (Kenny Crow outfit is not a starting item) so they have us all believe everything is unlocked when we get our hands on the update.

-Once again, Avatar unlocks are through the lottery, a tedious easter egg hunt that lasts several hours, or ingame "Instagram" popularity and reputation

-Rewards you get from doing one of these three methods are random and not guaranteed drops or chosen to your desire.



The fact Square Enix refused to communicate to the community any further about the update and what to expect until the day it releases, the horrible RNG forced tedium and other unexciting methods as a primary means of progression and consumer satisfaction makes this update a prime example of what NOT to do to promote your game and handle business practice within your own product.

Hiding your game update and most features behind through SEVERAL hours of boring and uninspiring methods of grinding, required online and vague, indirect explanation on how most of it works and leaving most of it behind reading or player input and discovery which can only work in specific scenarios, honestly makes this update and the wait for it since its PAX announcement one of the biggest letdowns and embarrassments of trying to promote your game I've ever seen. As someone who is easily excited for more FFXV content, and as a person that frequently comes back to this game often, I'll give credit where credit is due, this is by far the hardest I've been let down in a long time.

Taking something as simple as an avatar creator to take the place of Noctis' model and turning it into something that's way more complicated and unenjoyable than it should ever be is a colossal disaster of game design and business practice.

At the very least, a good game design could be something like avatar clothing vendors across the map where you buy attire for Gil or rewarding the player with an attire they want behind a hunt or a quest so that it's more engaging and appealing to people. Sharing images and playing the lottery is not why people play Final Fantasy XV.

The lack of consumer communication and a deprivation of the developers understanding what the playerbase of Final Fantasy XV truly want and need out of this game is what honestly made this update such a letdown and mediocre contribution to this game.

[Jazneo]

yea they should rethink this.

[Wolfdoggie]

I wonder when I'll have clothing beyond default. Photo system doesn't work for me (menu grayed out since update) and I got a lot of potions from treasure ;o

Really weird they dont use comrade unlocks. Does SE gain anything worth it from picture/like spam?

PS: SE gimme a black mage outfit >:(

[This is Hunk! From Alpha team.]

and after the update, performance seem it was gone down badly. I exprerience stuttering a lot than before, it became anoying than enjoying. Anyone experiences this?

[Jazneo]

Originally posted by Ten Phai Hop Phong Thuy :):

and after the update, performance seem it was gone down bad. I exprerience stuttering a lot than before, it became anoying than enjoying. Anyone experiences this?

because it turn on online server in single player you shut it off in option>online
all them picture tag random human running around take up cpu

[⚡Energy™⚡]

When I read that you could now use your Comrades avatar for Noctis I was super-exited, just to be super-disappointed only minutes later, when I found out that I'd have to unlock everything I already unlocked in Comreades a second time, and now through some wierd activities and lottery and other things that I cannot even influence.

It would have been a nice feature for people who never touchedComrades or never would, or in general, to be able to unlock stuff either this way or the other, but the way it is now it's pretty useless.

I seriously hope SE will change that, or someone finds out how to unlock all that stuff using a CE table instead...

[Dr. Flat Soda]

Originally posted by Я|R ®ed ®ocket™:

When I read that you could now use your Comrades avatar for Noctis I was super-exited, just to be super-disappointed only minutes later, when I found out that I'd have to unlock everything I already unlocked in Comreades a second time, and now through some wierd activities and lottery and other things that I cannot even influence.

It would have been a nice feature for people who never touchedComrades or never would, or in general, to be able to unlock stuff either this way or the other, but the way it is now it's pretty useless.

I seriously hope SE will change that, or someone finds out how to unlock all that stuff using a CE table instead...

The system of unlocking avatar items isn't good period. Comrades or not it's not fun, or engaging. It doesn't work no matter what scenario it is. Pour one out to the people already out there trying to bypass this system with either CE or workshop modding already.

[Jazneo]

it unlock https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXV/comments/96hy0p/save_for_unlock_avatara_items/

[⚡Energy™⚡]

Originally posted by Jazneo:

it unlock https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXV/comments/96hy0p/save_for_unlock_avatara_items/

Worked like a charm. You should post that in its own thread so everybody can find it easily. :)
Thanks for sharing.

[Divine Apparatus]

Just on the comrades save thing, they said from the beginning it was separate. They've always said that your character wouldn't copy over.

[Mikoto]

Originally posted by Jazneo:

it unlock https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXV/comments/96hy0p/save_for_unlock_avatara_items/

Saving this for later...

[Dr. Flat Soda]

Originally posted by Anamana!:

Just on the comrades save thing, they said from the beginning it was separate. They've always said that your character wouldn't copy over.

That still doesn't mean it'd be a good idea.

[Igor_HellishGuy-c902]

So the lotery thing is: i have to find find someone's stuff in order to get outfits for my avatar in main campain?

[⚡Energy™⚡]

The lottery thing is the official treasure, as you have to be the XXXXth visitor each day, depending on the announced numbers. So if the numbers are 1 and five like they are at the moment, you'd have to be visitor number 1641 or 1645 or 971 or 495 for example. if your last number on the visitor counter doesn't match, you get nothing.
The user treasure thingy on the other hand is fairly easy to acomplish. Just find someone else on your friendlist who plays the game and find a nice place to hide your treasures together. One that preferably nobody else would find accidently, and put your user treasures there. All you have to know of each other is the exact time when you placed your treasures and one of you have to gather the other's after 4 hours have passed (I usually get it after 6 to be on the safe side) and the other one has to pick up the treasure after 20 hours (or 21 to be safe) and you both get teh week's reward with no further effort.
My friend and I found a nice place where nobody has found our treaures yet, so it worked twice for us.
The other thing is the photo like stuff, you get stuff for it as well, it just seems that some people are luckier than others. Of 30 pictures I shared only 3 showed up. I even paused after the last 10 photos I shared, but only one of them showed up after days! I got 10 likes for almots 1000 given, so for me it's nearly impossible to get anything out of this.

And if you're not into ANY of this there's still the option to unlock everything right away and just skip the rest, or simply do it for fun like I do. (and for my friend of course)