HELP! how to complete MENACE BENEATH LUCIS

[雞塊Jesus Christ]

i've tried a dozen times and i failed a dozen times. it's very difficult to defeat those monters without using a single portion,elixir, etc....... i admit i ain't a pro! so any Senpai/ master can help me, i'll be grateful for your assistance. thanks in advance.

[lilwing]

Use healcast magic.

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lilwing の投稿を引用：

Use healcast magic.

i'm sorry, use what? no offense, i really have no idea what is it.

[lilwing]

You can craft different types of magic using different items. Dualcast, blastcast, failcast, etc. Healcast works like hi-elixir, fully restores HP.

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lilwing の投稿を引用：

You can craft different types of magic using different items. Dualcast, blastcast, failcast, etc. Healcast works like hi-elixir, fully restores HP.

i didn't know before, how to craft it?

[lilwing]

Never used magic? Read this http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Elemancy

[edale1]

Basically, the bottom circle on the elemancy screen lets you add an item to the mix, different items have different effects, such as expericast spells which give you a good chunk of EXP with each cast, or quinticast which triggers the spell 5 times with each cast.

I don't remember where in the story Menace Beneath Lucis is, but if you're far enough in the hunts to have the Zu hunt (the giant bird that you fight in the volcano), break its beak during the fight to get some Zu Beaks, which will upgrade your spells to their limit breaking forms, giving a max damage of 99,999 per cast, rather than the normal 9,999.

IIRC, it takes 62 Zu beaks and 1 element, of any element, to craft a limit breaking spell with 999 power and 99 casts; takes forever to farm (you can use the nearby campgrounds while leaving your car at town to quicktravel between the fight and the tipster, speeding things up considerably), but makes pretty much any boss fight, or hunt, a cakewalk once you've got all 3 spells with that many casts.

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lilwing の投稿を引用：

Never used magic? Read this http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Elemancy

i only crafted fire, ice and thunder magic before

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edale1 の投稿を引用：

Basically, the bottom circle on the elemancy screen lets you add an item to the mix, different items have different effects, such as expericast spells which give you a good chunk of EXP with each cast, or quinticast which triggers the spell 5 times with each cast.

I don't remember where in the story Menace Beneath Lucis is, but if you're far enough in the hunts to have the Zu hunt (the giant bird that you fight in the volcano), break its beak during the fight to get some Zu Beaks, which will upgrade your spells to their limit breaking forms, giving a max damage of 99,999 per cast, rather than the normal 9,999.

IIRC, it takes 62 Zu beaks and 1 element, of any element, to craft a limit breaking spell with 999 power and 99 casts; takes forever to farm (you can use the nearby campgrounds while leaving your car at town to quicktravel between the fight and the tipster, speeding things up considerably), but makes pretty much any boss fight, or hunt, a cakewalk once you've got all 3 spells with that many casts.

noted. i didn't know how to craft such powerful spells before, thanks for info.

[Grubbs008]

Shadow Of Bugs の投稿を引用：

edale1 の投稿を引用：

Basically, the bottom circle on the elemancy screen lets you add an item to the mix, different items have different effects, such as expericast spells which give you a good chunk of EXP with each cast, or quinticast which triggers the spell 5 times with each cast.

I don't remember where in the story Menace Beneath Lucis is, but if you're far enough in the hunts to have the Zu hunt (the giant bird that you fight in the volcano), break its beak during the fight to get some Zu Beaks, which will upgrade your spells to their limit breaking forms, giving a max damage of 99,999 per cast, rather than the normal 9,999.

IIRC, it takes 62 Zu beaks and 1 element, of any element, to craft a limit breaking spell with 999 power and 99 casts; takes forever to farm (you can use the nearby campgrounds while leaving your car at town to quicktravel between the fight and the tipster, speeding things up considerably), but makes pretty much any boss fight, or hunt, a cakewalk once you've got all 3 spells with that many casts.

noted. i didn't know how to craft such powerful spells before, thanks for info.

Just did what he said, and My Fire/Ice/Thunder spell hit for 99,999. Fu8kin RIP the AI.

[edale1]

Zu Beaks aren't the only limit break item, but they are the only farmable one that I'm aware of, meaning they're the only one that lets you max out the damage to that extent. (I used roughly 5 stacks of 99 casts of limit break spells to clear out all the post-game dungeons without actually having to fight, lol; 1 cast per room and you're done, assuming they aren't immune to the element you're using, though a few of the fights needed 4-5 casts, mostly the bosses).

For the expericast spells, IIRC they give 100,000 exp per cast at expericast lvl 96 (no point in lvling past 96). Equip moogle charms for bonus exp, eat an exp boosting meal at camp (triple decker for 50% boost), expericast 5 times, then stay at the hotel in Altissia for 3x exp, and you can get more than 2,000,000 exp in one go. 1 element and 8 rare coins will give you 5 casts at expericast lvl 96 (more if you have the bonus spell ascensions), this is the most efficient way to craft them.

Sadly, I didn't learn that trick with expericast until I had already maxed my lvls at lvl 120 the hard way.

[lilwing]

Wind-up lord vexxos is another farmable catalyst, it takes 8-9 to get 99 max potency spells.

[Elaine Marley]

Yeah, the Costlemark Menace Dungeon requires some preparation. Here's things I did to help me get through it pretty easily:

1) Stock up on ingredients to cook useful dinners at the campsites, I went for Lasagna di Forno every time, which trivialises the final floors.

2) Invest AP in the Recovery and Stat Ascension trees for HP and healing bonuses. Also if you can get the 999AP one on Teamwork for linkstrike limit break damage that will really help you take down enemies fast.

3) If you can, equip The Grand Chamberlain accesory on Ignis to automatically use an elixir on Noctis (the item use accesories bypass the item restriction). Stocking some healcasts like as already been explained should also work. Also equip Ribbons or Safety Bits on everyone.

4) Craft limit break magic using Zu Beaks. A couple of Freeze spells worked great on the final boss.

5) Death spell on Ring of the Lucii works great on Goblins and enemies on the first floors.

Also, you don't need to go overboard on all these at all, just play to your strengths. Some people like to use spells on most floors, I only used a couple. Some people prefer to boost their attack with food (eg. Golden Tail Soup), I preferred to boost my defense with food, minimising my need for healcasts.

Oh, and in case this had passed you by: by resting at the campsites an autosave is created, so if you Game Over you can continue from the last campsite, rather than the beginning of the dungeon.

[CatPerson]

edale1 の投稿を引用：

Zu Beaks aren't the only limit break item, but they are the only farmable one that I'm aware of

Adamantite from the turtle is also farmable. It's a better/more efficient catalyst but it's also less time-efficient to farm a lot of them, even if you use the ring/aterna.

Vexxos is the best limit break item but if you hate playing pinball for hours and hours and don't enjoy doing the Timed Hunts 10000 times (and don't want to use CheatEngine to cheat them in), you'll never have a lot of those.

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It's also best to use food that gives resistances to elements in preparation to taking on this dungeon as well (theres food that resists elements) trust me you will need it (especially fire proof) when facing the last enemy of the dungeon