is this game just missing cutscenes or what

[Jakuzi]

I pick up mythril and then during a loading scene it says "Aranea informs the gang that just mythril ore isn't enough, and suggested going to see Holly in Lestallum to treat the ore." suddenly I'm clearing out a power plant that's filled with daemons. not even a single scene with Holly

I already thought it was suspicious that there weren't any scenes of Noctis dealing with his father's assassination but I just chalked it up to him being the most boring protagonist ever created (I mean he likes fishing ffs)
but now I'm beginning to think that they just didn't bother

[MJ7791]

Square Enix didn't bother. I've read they quit developing the game soon after release and patch worked a story conclusion because the lead developer quit.

[Ayumu5]

The game is incomplete which is unfortunate, 15 years was wasted on developing this game. We were supposed to finish this game with the remaining 3 DLC'S, but they cancelled it. Once you beat the game, make sure you go and finish it by reading the book Final Fantasy 15 Dawn of the Future. The real ending lies there which is sad.

[PFC Demigo [29th ID]]

Because of Square Enix Japan Executives interference and annoyance the game had Development Hell that the Lead Developer Left and the remaining DLC got canned and any missing content was just cut.

[DeadZeus]

Why do you need a cutscene for that? The explenation given to you is pretty clear right?

Also don't forget to play Gladio DLC when u finish the powerplant.

But i agree some stuff is very badly handled in terms of story telling

[Jakuzi]

Originally posted by Ayumu5:

The game is incomplete which is unfortunate, 15 years was wasted on developing this game. We were supposed to finish this game with the remaining 3 DLC'S, but they cancelled it. Once you beat the game, make sure you go and finish it by reading the book Final Fantasy 15 Dawn of the Future. The real ending lies there which is sad.

I have absolutely 0 faith that that book is worth my time, but it's interesting to hear that there even is one, what a sad state of events, I wish I hadn't rewarded this poor behaviour by purchasing this game

[Neothrasher]

Originally posted by Ayumu5:

The game is incomplete which is unfortunate, 15 years was wasted on developing this game. We were supposed to finish this game with the remaining 3 DLC'S, but they cancelled it. Once you beat the game, make sure you go and finish it by reading the book Final Fantasy 15 Dawn of the Future. The real ending lies there which is sad.

Technically speaking, Dawn of the Future's ending is not the canonical ending of FFXV. The trilogy of cancelled DLC's, which the book covers, tells an alternate version of the story where Ardyn makes a different choice. I won't spoil the Ardyn DLC, but there is a choice to be made. One choice leads to the events of FFXV. The other choice leads to the events in Dawn of the Future.

What you have starting with Ardyn's choice and the Dawn of the Future book is an alternate version of events that presents a "what-if" scenario... in much the same way that a choice in the Ignis DLC leads to an alternate version of events. The alternate endings of the Ignis DLC and Dawn of the Future are not replacements to the canonical ending of FFXV and there are interviews with Tabata that clarify this stance (specifically in regards to people preferring the more up-beat and happy ending presented in the Ignis DLC's alternate ending).

[DeadZeus]

Originally posted by Jakuzi:

Originally posted by Ayumu5:

The game is incomplete which is unfortunate, 15 years was wasted on developing this game. We were supposed to finish this game with the remaining 3 DLC'S, but they cancelled it. Once you beat the game, make sure you go and finish it by reading the book Final Fantasy 15 Dawn of the Future. The real ending lies there which is sad.

I have absolutely 0 faith that that book is worth my time, but it's interesting to hear that there even is one, what a sad state of events, I wish I hadn't rewarded this poor behaviour by purchasing this game

Don't listen to him, That book is not the "REAL ENDING" It's pretty much fan fiction for an "alternate" ending... So yea.. the real ending is in the game.

The book is "what if"

[Ayumu5]

Originally posted by DeadZeus:

Originally posted by Jakuzi:

I have absolutely 0 faith that that book is worth my time, but it's interesting to hear that there even is one, what a sad state of events, I wish I hadn't rewarded this poor behaviour by purchasing this game

Don't listen to him, That book is not the "REAL ENDING" It's pretty much fan fiction for an "alternate" ending... So yea.. the real ending is in the game.

The book is "what if"

The ending for Dawn of the Future is the real deal.

[Neothrasher]

Originally posted by Ayumu5:

Originally posted by DeadZeus:

Don't listen to him, That book is not the "REAL ENDING" It's pretty much fan fiction for an "alternate" ending... So yea.. the real ending is in the game.

The book is "what if"

The ending for Dawn of the Future is the real deal.

Putting this in spoiler territory for people who haven't played through the Ardyn or Ignis DLC...


It's an alternate ending because the entire premise of Dawn of the Future is based on Ardyn choosing to defy his fate when given the choice by Bahamut. The game that we got that is FFXV is based on Ardyn accepting his fate and agreeing to spread darkness throughout Eos, since it would ultimately lead to not only his own death (which he wanted), but the end of the Lucis line (which he also wanted).

To say the ending of Dawn of Fate is the "real" ending is as silly as saying the alternate ending of the Ignis DLC where Ignis sides with Ardyn only to double-cross him later in Niflheim, looses his vision after destroying Ardyn with the Ring of the Lucii, and then being healed by the Crystal at Noct's behest is considered the "true" ending.

Just because Dawn of the Future (and the Ignis DLC alternate ending) showcase a happier ending doesn't mean it's the true ending. The director of the game did an interview a while back after Ignis DLC was launched where he was asked his feelings on people preferring the alternate ending to the canonical ending. To paraphrase what he said, he said that the DLC gave him and his team a chance to tell a what-if scenario and that while he was happy that people preferred the happier tone of the alternate ending, that ending in no way, shape, or form represented the true ending.

The same applies to Dawn of the Future. Like or not... love it or hate it... Noctis dies to destroy Ardyn in the Crystal Realm and put an end to the Starscourge. Everything else is a what-if that shows a possible timeline if certain key choices were made differently.

[Clone]

Originally posted by Ayumu5:

Originally posted by DeadZeus:

Don't listen to him, That book is not the "REAL ENDING" It's pretty much fan fiction for an "alternate" ending... So yea.. the real ending is in the game.

The book is "what if"

The ending for Dawn of the Future is the real deal.

What happens in timeline B is meaningless to timeline A. Change my mind.

[DeadZeus]

Originally posted by oberonQA:

Originally posted by Ayumu5:

The ending for Dawn of the Future is the real deal.

Putting this in spoiler territory for people who haven't played through the Ardyn or Ignis DLC...


It's an alternate ending because the entire premise of Dawn of the Future is based on Ardyn choosing to defy his fate when given the choice by Bahamut. The game that we got that is FFXV is based on Ardyn accepting his fate and agreeing to spread darkness throughout Eos, since it would ultimately lead to not only his own death (which he wanted), but the end of the Lucis line (which he also wanted).

To say the ending of Dawn of Fate is the "real" ending is as silly as saying the alternate ending of the Ignis DLC where Ignis sides with Ardyn only to double-cross him later in Niflheim, looses his vision after destroying Ardyn with the Ring of the Lucii, and then being healed by the Crystal at Noct's behest is considered the "true" ending.

Just because Dawn of the Future (and the Ignis DLC alternate ending) showcase a happier ending doesn't mean it's the true ending. The director of the game did an interview a while back after Ignis DLC was launched where he was asked his feelings on people preferring the alternate ending to the canonical ending. To paraphrase what he said, he said that the DLC gave him and his team a chance to tell a what-if scenario and that while he was happy that people preferred the happier tone of the alternate ending, that ending in no way, shape, or form represented the true ending.

The same applies to Dawn of the Future. Like or not... love it or hate it... Noctis dies to destroy Ardyn in the Crystal Realm and put an end to the Starscourge. Everything else is a what-if that shows a possible timeline if certain key choices were made differently.

It's not just "different choices" tbh... Entire backstories and characters are completely different and new in Dawn of the Future.. It's 100% non canon alternate. Things like the War of the Astrals are completely different in Dawn of the Future, it's more than just "different choice" from Ardyn. Entire charactrers backstories are rewritten in this book.

It's stupid.

[Insolentius]

Originally posted by Ayumu5:

Once you beat the game, make sure you go and finish it by reading the book Final Fantasy 15 Dawn of the Future. The real ending lies there which is sad.

That book features an alternative ending that was jammed in there for crybabies who can't stomach a bittersweet conclusion to a story (with one of the best ending scenes (final camping scene) in the history of FF games).

[KalElRedK]

Originally posted by Insolentius:

Originally posted by Ayumu5:

Once you beat the game, make sure you go and finish it by reading the book Final Fantasy 15 Dawn of the Future. The real ending lies there which is sad.

That book features an alternative ending that was jammed in there for crybabies who can't stomach a bittersweet conclusion to a story (with one of the best ending scenes (final camping scene) in the history of FF games).

Probably the same crybabies which use the Happy Ending Mod for Mass Effect 3. :D
The canon ending is a good ending, makes total sense for the story and the character Noctis. It was his destiny and the story was all about that sacrifice. Although the destiny is written by selfish "gods".^^

[orig4mi]

The book is a clear what-if and even advertised as such, I can't believe people are this stupid.-

[Neothrasher]

Originally posted by orig4mi:

The book is a clear what-if and even advertised as such, I can't believe people are this stupid.-

There are rarely any limits to stupidity when people are involved....