Are all JRPGs all so....weird?

[Vladd the Impaler]

I really like this game a lot, don't get me wrong, but as with every JRPG I have ever played I am always put off by the strangeness of Japanese game design:

1) Why do the main characters all look like total D-Bags? Seriously, if you saw people dressed like this with those hair-dos in real life, your first reaction would be, "what a bunch of tools"

2) The music - total elevator music, REALLY bad

3) I realize they may be trying to market to a young, male demographic, but do ALL the female characters really have to have hugely exaggerated breasts?

4) Little cutesy creatures...just NO...ruins any element of "grittiness" the game could have had.

[Bankai9212]

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How is that out of the ordinary? Given the setting of the game and the time period it reflects.

Women with boobs apply to almost any game setting. OP thinking boobs are weird because they are in a JRPG is a weird comment.

He was referring to the size not the fact they had boobs.

[Vilhjálmr]

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Women with boobs apply to almost any game setting. OP thinking boobs are weird because they are in a JRPG is a weird comment.

He was referring to the size not the fact they had boobs.

Yes I already addressed that. All the boobs in this game are on the average to small side. There are extremes in both western and JRPGs, but not in this one.

[Ceriss]

This isn't really the traditional style of JRPG.

This company, having made JRPG's for years really set the tone in the west for what a traditional JRPG is... but FFXV isn't that.

The writing bears the typical JRPG style but doesn't follow through with it, the character focus is there but the development of them and the pacing isn't in sync with a traditional JRPG.

As for the "weird" elements, if you grew up with Western games then yeah it's gonna be weird.

I'm going to try my best not to insert how I feel about this because you rub me as the sort of guy that doesn't understand how JRPG's characters and themes are actually far more balanced than the forced grit and drama that Western entertainment shoves onto us.

Western entertainment almost always focuses on an individual and some kind of fantasy for its audience... so it relies on overly gritty and dramatic set ups for those characters to showcase their exaggerated traits.

Eastern entertainment doesn't care about this for the most part, they focus on groups and their interactions and indeed, their daily lives. There doesn't exist a human like Geralt in Witcher that's always perfect and a gritty badass. People eat, they cry, they're sad, they're brave sometimes, they fail, they succeed... etc.

If you don't like the more balanced approach of JRPG's you won't like any other JRPG's. Stick to Western stuff.

If you're like the rest of the West and you have that incessant need for power fantasy badasses that never make mistakes and never have a full set of human emotions, then yeah. Don't play anymore JRPG's cause you will not find what you're looking for.

Well I tried not to inject my feelings on the matter but I found it impossible.

I don't want to make the same mistake as you did so I want to make clear I'm not calling the Western style inferior.

That style has its place in entertainment but I CAN say it's often far less realistic than a JRPG. Life is a balanced thing. There's cute things, ugly things, douche bags, awesome people, etc.

Western entertainment often elects to only show what's cool and never anything else, removing some humanity from its characters... which conversely helps them to be more badass.

But if you need grit, yeah, go play another genre. It's not for you.

[fender178]

Postat inițial de Vladd the Impaler:

I really like this game a lot, don't get me wrong, but as with every JRPG I have ever played I am always put off by the strangeness of Japanese game design:

1) Why do the main characters all look like total D-Bags? Seriously, if you saw people dressed like this with those hair-dos in real life, your first reaction would be, "what a bunch of tools"

2) The music - total elevator music, REALLY bad

3) I realize they may be trying to market to a young, male demographic, but do ALL the female characters really have to have hugely exaggerated breasts?

4) Little cutesy creatures...just NO...ruins any element of "grittiness" the game could have had.

Well it depends on what JRPG series you are talking about. I would say some JRPGS are weird though.

[Unaimed Player]

Postat inițial de Vladd the Impaler:

I really like this game a lot, don't get me wrong, but as with every JRPG I have ever played I am always put off by the strangeness of Japanese game design:

1) Why do the main characters all look like total D-Bags? Seriously, if you saw people dressed like this with those hair-dos in real life, your first reaction would be, "what a bunch of tools"

2) The music - total elevator music, REALLY bad

3) I realize they may be trying to market to a young, male demographic, but do ALL the female characters really have to have hugely exaggerated breasts?

4) Little cutesy creatures...just NO...ruins any element of "grittiness" the game could have had.

1) No, I would not! Not everyone is a judgmental prick!

2) Tastes are different. You can listen to th emusic from the older FF games. You can buy the soundtracks at the shops and you can even buy a mp3 player to listen to it outside of the Regalia.

3) No, not all women have large breasts in the game and there are 0 women with 'hugely exaggerated breasts'.

4) Not many cute creatures in the game. The creature design is great and diverse. I especially like that many creatures look familiar to animals from our world, but added with "new" features or features foreign to the species.

I'd suggest that you play the game a little longer before jumping to conclusions.
This game is in comparison to other Japanese entertainment media not very "strange" for westerners. Infact this game is very much westernised and "tamed down". It is a mix of Japanese and Western influences.

[Xash]

Perfectly said, Knobi!

[Seraphita]

Pretty sure there are even characters with flat chests... Also yeah, I don't think FF15 is the kind of games with cute things in it. And even then... In all FF, there were always chocobos and moogles and I wouldn't see how it ruins anything. It's part of what FF is and always have been so yeah.

[Names]

1. characters haircuts and general looks are quite acceptable for last decade of Japanese fashion

2. Music is relatively great. Elevator music is also not that bad, that's why it's in public elevator and not some music you would prefer there to be (i bet)

3. Most females in video games have decent breasts, that's just smart marketing decision.

4. "Little cutesy creatures" are a minority in otherwise very rough wildlife. Most of the cute creatures are a standard in FF franchise and would be missed by millions if devs decided to get rid of them some day.

[CatPerson]

I live in California. I've seen much weirder hair over the last 4+ decades. The back of Noct's head looks like a mop but I remember people in highschool who would just bundle up in one hand and chop their hair with one cut of the scissors in summer and it would look sorta like that for a bit :P. Ignis just uses too much gel on the front (which is partially solved by his DLC casual outfit). Prompto just has a big poofy font side sweep which reminds me a bit of some styles from past US decades, actually. Gladio has an almost 80's mullet, nothing more. Older Ignis hair reminds me of Elvis a bit.

In 20 years, the hairstyle you think is awesome right now will be thought of as douchey or stupid, too.

I love the music, personally.

Don't care about female attribute sizes since I'm not generally looking at them, and none seemed cartoonishly huge either, but I do get your point. Is it any worse tho than a male game hero being a buff square jawed manly man with bulging biceps and machismo attitudes? Stereotypes on all sides.

And...what cutesy creatures? The cat? I don't recall any other "cutesy" critters per se, unless you count Carbuncle, which if you don't play in Easy you will never see outside of tutorial and Prompto getting a pic of it once in a while. I guess you could include the chocobo's...they are pretty charming for giant chickens.

[Sovereigndrake]

1) They secretly want to be Guy Fieri
2) Some people like rap just sayin'
3) Anatomy is a wonderful thing ain't it?
4) Not everything in the world needs to be hideous. Beauty and danger go hand in hand.

Edit: Also, carbuncles are adorbs! Don't you dare take them away from me!

[Vallon]

Ah, here we have another extremely close-mined individual, disregarding anything outside his super limited perception of normal as ''weird''.

[kurosov]

Postat inițial de Vladd the Impaler:

1) Why do the main characters all look like total D-Bags? Seriously, if you saw people dressed like this with those hair-dos in real life, your first reaction would be, "what a bunch of tools"

Styles vary greatly across the games, Each world has it's own aesthetic. The modern setting of Insomnia lead them to take visual queues from Japanese fashion.

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2) The music - total elevator music, REALLY bad

FF games arguablely have the best music in gaming. Immensely popular with sell out shows of the performances. Later series are less impressive but some of the old music is in there.

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3) I realize they may be trying to market to a young, male demographic, but do ALL the female characters really have to have hugely exaggerated breasts?

You're making ♥♥♥♥ up here. There are a range of bust sizes on female characters and many aren't even emphasised. There are a grand total of two major female characters with larger breasts on show, Large breasted women do exist.

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4) Little cutesy creatures...just NO...ruins any element of "grittiness" the game could have had.

A pointless complaint. Puppies exist even in "gritty" worlds. The game also has no "gritty" style focus. Sounds like you're trying to forge the game into a box it wasn't designed to fit.