FINAL FANTASY XV WINDOWS EDITION

FINAL FANTASY XV WINDOWS EDITION

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Nino Nakano Mar 26, 2018 @ 7:00pm
If you had to choose between low graphics/60+ FPS and high graphics/30FPS, which did you choose and why?
I myself chose quality graphics over 60FPS, here's why:

I have an Intel Core i5-7500 and a GTX 960 SC (3GB), with 8GB RAM. Not exactly a good combinaion for my new 4K montior, but then again that monitor will be used for more than just gaming.

Anyways, I found that playing at resolutions lower than 1080p would make everything look blurry as ♥♥♥♥ regardless of settings. Doing it at 1080p with mostly High settings strikes a balance between quality graphics and perfomance @30FPS, I find (I'm aware that PC gamers look down on 30FPS, but then again I played the console version, so I'm perfectly okay with it.).

But that means I see 1080p cutscenes and not 4K, so I figured out a way around that - set the resolution to 2160p and the scale to 50%. The result is the best of both worlds - the game technically outputting at 4K - thereby enabling the 4K prerendered cutscenes - but it's rendering everything else at 1080P, which means a playable 30FPS on mostly High settings.

I wonder if anyone else is in the same boat as me, hence why I'm asking.
Last edited by Nino Nakano; Mar 27, 2018 @ 10:47pm
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Nino Nakano Mar 27, 2018 @ 10:59pm 
Originally posted by Red Monk:
It seems like you're trying to justify your self doubts OP.

High settings with low fps is a better experience in my opinion due to how gorgeous the game looks, the gameplay at 30fps is fine if you can curb that "I can get better fps" thought that keeps popping up.
No, I'm just curious, is all.

Originally posted by Spawk:
Originally posted by Sobrio:

resolution
Gee, no kidding. But what resolution? Just saying 75% doesn't mean anything when you don't say what resolution it's 75% of :)
There's two resolution settings, both weirdly named "Resolution".

Resolution in Display is your actual resolution. You know, 1920x1080 and all that.

Resolution in Graphics is the scale for 3D rendering, which is based on the resolution you set under Display. 100% is native resolution (no scaling). 75% of 1080p is 720p, 50% is 540p, and 200% is 2160p as some examples.

Which means that, theoretically, if you have an 8K monitor, you could scale the game to 16K as another example.
CHAO$$$ Mar 28, 2018 @ 2:45am 
It really depends on what you play doesnt it?

If you play a game mostly for gameplay such as most online pvp games --> max fps 60+!

If you play something like FF15 --> max quality
Sovereigndrake Mar 28, 2018 @ 2:53am 
30 is perfectly fine, but because i caould do high with 60+ I capped mine at 60. Anything else is just a wasted effort on my computer's part.

Quality > Quantity (especially when Aranea is on screen amiright?)
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Junoh Mar 28, 2018 @ 3:58am 
I went with medium/high 30 FPS for my first playthrough. Second playthrough and post-game content is medium 60 FPS for me. When rendering a video I did low 60 FPS on a smaller resolution though.
Greslus Mar 28, 2018 @ 4:13am 
For the record, 75% of 1080p is not 720p, its 810p. 900p is 83.3%, and 720p is 66.6%. You can set exact resolution percentage if you change the .ini file in (C:\Users\User_Name\Documents\My Games\FINAL FANTASY XV\Steam\(your ID number)\savestorage). Although you can't set the resolution scaling below 50%.
Nino Nakano Mar 29, 2018 @ 10:59pm 
Originally posted by Spawk:
Originally posted by Noire (Black Heart):
No, I'm just curious, is all.


There's two resolution settings, both weirdly named "Resolution".

Resolution in Display is your actual resolution. You know, 1920x1080 and all that.

Resolution in Graphics is the scale for 3D rendering, which is based on the resolution you set under Display. 100% is native resolution (no scaling). 75% of 1080p is 720p, 50% is 540p, and 200% is 2160p as some examples.

Which means that, theoretically, if you have an 8K monitor, you could scale the game to 16K as another example.
I don't know how that relates to the post you quoted :)
I was trying to help Sobrio - the guy whose post you quoted before - understand that there are 2 resolution settings, and which one of those you were referring to.
Nino Nakano Mar 29, 2018 @ 11:01pm 
Originally posted by Greslus:
For the record, 75% of 1080p is not 720p, its 810p.
Are you talking about in terms of the actual pixel count? 'Cause I just divided the two dimensions by half and got 960x540....
Raemnant Mar 29, 2018 @ 11:12pm 
It depends on if its a high action game or not. If its something slow paced, or turn based, 30 is fine. But I wouldnt be caught dead using anything lower than 60 in an action, FPS, or MOBA
Greslus Mar 29, 2018 @ 11:17pm 
Well it's simple math really, (1080x75):100= 810, not 720. Just making a point is all. 720 is 66.66% of 1080, not 75%.

And for the record, I wasn't counting actual pixel count. Just horizontal and vertical pixel since that's how res-scale works. Not by actually reducing total pixel percentage (as in, 75% of 2 million pixels)
Last edited by Greslus; Mar 29, 2018 @ 11:19pm
Fhaerron Mar 29, 2018 @ 11:26pm 
You have the potatoe consoles for 'high grapichs' 23 cinematic FPS.

The reason we have a PC is so we can use 60/120/144 FPS.
There are CS:GO players with a 1080Ti that play on 800X600 with lowest settings for maximum FPS.

Altough I don't go that far for me I keep lowering settings untill I hit a stable 60FPS.

One thing I hate on my PS4 PRO is that I do not have settings in game where I can choose 'low quality mode with 60 FPS'.
There's a boost function on the PS4 Pro though which actually does improve the framerate but it only works with like 5 games maybe?
On most games it does nothing, I'm starting to guess a lot of console games have a hardcapped framerate of 23 ...
Lusus Symphonia Mar 29, 2018 @ 11:30pm 
Originally posted by Fhaerron:
You have the potatoe consoles for 'high grapichs' 23 cinematic FPS.

The reason we have a PC is so we can use 60/120/144 FPS.
There are CS:GO players with a 1080Ti that play on 800X600 with lowest settings for maximum FPS.

Altough I don't go that far for me I keep lowering settings untill I hit a stable 60FPS.

One thing I hate on my PS4 PRO is that I do not have settings in game where I can choose 'low quality mode with 60 FPS'.
There's a boost function on the PS4 Pro though which actually does improve the framerate but it only works with like 5 games maybe?
On most games it does nothing, I'm starting to guess a lot of console games have a hardcapped framerate of 23 ...
Didn't they release a lite mode that allowed pspro players to get 60fps? Read about it on gameFAQs.
Also I agree with you for multiplayer games but for single player games, I don't mind gorgeous graphics at 30fps, I like taking screenshots without having to fiddle with the settings before each capture.
Fhaerron Mar 29, 2018 @ 11:45pm 
Originally posted by Red Monk:
Originally posted by Fhaerron:
You have the potatoe consoles for 'high grapichs' 23 cinematic FPS.

The reason we have a PC is so we can use 60/120/144 FPS.
There are CS:GO players with a 1080Ti that play on 800X600 with lowest settings for maximum FPS.

Altough I don't go that far for me I keep lowering settings untill I hit a stable 60FPS.

One thing I hate on my PS4 PRO is that I do not have settings in game where I can choose 'low quality mode with 60 FPS'.
There's a boost function on the PS4 Pro though which actually does improve the framerate but it only works with like 5 games maybe?
On most games it does nothing, I'm starting to guess a lot of console games have a hardcapped framerate of 23 ...
Didn't they release a lite mode that allowed pspro players to get 60fps? Read about it on gameFAQs.
Also I agree with you for multiplayer games but for single player games, I don't mind gorgeous graphics at 30fps, I like taking screenshots without having to fiddle with the settings before each capture.

Boost mode is the 'mod', it's a new option you can turn on to release the extra power the PS4 PRO has but it does nothing on 95% of games.
That's why I think those console games are hardcapped at 23 FPS, I do not know the reason but yeah ... cinematic experience?

A stable frame rate of 30 is definitely playable but there's just a huge difference with 60 and I really do prefer the smoothness of 60.

However there's a difference between 30 FPS on my PC & my PS4 PRO.
Both my PC monitor & my TV screen have a 60Hz screen (actually my PC monitor is 59.9Hz).
Whenever I lock a game to 30 FPS on my PC it feels very ... like it stutters the entire play trough even without the frame rate never dropping or rising, on this game too.
On my PS4 (I had the regular PS4 when XV came out in 2016) the game felt much more smoother even though it has a 30 FPS lock on PS4 ...

Of course I have no frame rate counter on console but the 30 FPS on it feels less stuttery then then 30 FPS hard lock on PC?
Elseworlds Mar 30, 2018 @ 4:22am 
30 fps is way too choppy to enjoy, so I would rather drop some settings and get the most fps possible.
Nino Nakano Mar 30, 2018 @ 10:32am 
Originally posted by Red Monk:
Didn't they release a lite mode that allowed pspro players to get 60fps? Read about it on gameFAQs.
Yes, but it's an unlocked framerate. You ain't getting anywhere near 60 unless you look at the sky, and even then, it's like....50?

Originally posted by Fhaerron:
There's a boost function on the PS4 Pro though which actually does improve the framerate but it only works with like 5 games maybe?
On most games it does nothing, I'm starting to guess a lot of console games have a hardcapped framerate of 23 ...

Originally posted by Fhaerron:
Boost mode is the 'mod', it's a new option you can turn on to release the extra power the PS4 PRO has but it does nothing on 95% of games.
That's why I think those console games are hardcapped at 23 FPS, I do not know the reason but yeah ... cinematic experience?

Boost Mode forces games that haven't been programmed for PS4 Pro natively, like Gal*Gun Double Peace, Megadimension Neptunia VII, and Yakuza 0, to take advantage of the higher clock speed of the console's CPU. Otherwise, they'll only utilize the clock speed they were originally designed to run at - that is, the base/slim PS4.

It literally has no effect on games that have PS4 Pro support, like FFXV.
Kosmozuikis Mar 30, 2018 @ 10:35am 
I rather not play at all than play at low graphics. In that case i just wait until i save enough money for an upgrade.
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