HDR question

[quattrob]

I've set up HDR through windows 10 settings connected to my MU8000 Samsung HDTV and somehow it just doesn't look right.. seems like colors are alittle washed out without some calibration on tv and/or windows display settings.. even when I lower the brightness and contrast/etc it still looks lacking for HDR. Can anyone show some kind of screenshot of HDR in action or give me some assistance on how to know if my game is actually running HDR properly..

The game has Luminance enabled so I can change that and I'm using HDMI 2.0a. Thanks.

[Saad M]

Hi, i had the same problem but i could find a solution. But you have to try what is the best setting for you on your hdtv.
Go on your nvidia control panel and adjust desktop color stting.
Then play with the gamma, the digital vibrance and maybe contrast if you need to. What is acceptable on my samsung ks9500 tv is about +50 to +60 vibrance and 1.3 to 1.4 gamma

[Tachidito]

Wait, so you still have to go to your nvidia panel to set it up. I thought HDR was just as easy as enable HDR on windows and start the game.

Do I have to do the same thing for netflix? I am very close in buying a 4k HDR TV and i dont want to deal with messing vibrancy and gamma.

[BigCNuggit]

I get blown out brightness if I run the game at 1440p. I have this with pretty much every PC game using HDR. I've only ever gotten HDR working properly when I run full 4k. Even 1080p has been hit or miss. My only solution to most games has been to run at full 4k and lower the resolution scaling in graphics. Sadly, we only get 50%(1080p) or 75%(1620p) in this game so it's kind of hard on the FPS if you go 75%.

You shouldn't have to tweak anything at all. Leaving on "Use default color settings" in nvidia control panel and clicking on the HDR switch in Window's 'All Settings/system' should be all you need to do for activation in this.

[Saad M]

@Tachidito
You only have to set your color for hdr when you activate it through windows 10because this hdr is so bad.
For some game like Mass efffect andromeda dor example it get applied automatically even without enable it through windows 10 and it work properly then. With windows 10 the picture is either washed out or too bright.
Look at this thread for more info
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-start/windows-hdr-option-within-windows-10-settings-poor/2a3d49b5-fd94-4671-b14c-519ec4a7eb99

[BigCNuggit]

Manual activation of HDR in Windows settings is total BS, I agree. I've come to notice that it's only required in "windows games". So, Forza 7/Horizon 3, Shadow of War, FFXV. The latter two are actually sold on the windows store even though they're not MS made so they must have some kind of requirement to work as a "windows game" which would include the shoddy HDR activation. Every other game I have that uses HDR that isn't sold on the Windows store will activate automatically.

If you were working with HDR on PC same time last year you would know how garbage it all used to be. You would have to manually set your control panel to 4:2:0 chroma with 12bpc (4:2:2 would never work and 10bpc was never an option, at least for myself) and then HOPE RE7, Shadow Warrior 2, or Andromeda would work.... These days, I would say, it is all working fine aside from Windows games manual activation. AC:Origins is probably the best HDR usage I've ever seen in a game so far.

If control panel has use default color set and your windows/drivers are all up to date, it should automatically switch over to 4:2:2/10bpc output and be all good to go. If you're running a Windows game, it should do the same just by checking the toggle switch in 'all settings/system'. Anything beyond that will be in game settings. Like I mentioned above, your best bet is to go for 4k native output just to see if it actually looks different to rule out your resolution not working with HDR properly.

Or it could be the TV. And considering the trash that was my former Samsung JS8500, I wouldn't be surprised ;)

PS. Now that HDR is all proper on PC these days, It flat out doesn't work in ME:Andromeda anymore since they abondoned support. Ironic, considering it was one of the games that worked with the least amount of system settings effort, originally. But that's just for me.

[robcram]

I have a KS7000 or KS8000 if you're in the US and the game looks fantastic with HDR enabled in windows 10 advanced colour. However...

For samsung TVs

1.Before booting game go to Windows 10 settings and turn on HDR and Advanced color option. Desktop will look terrible (ignore that). Keep on default colour settings rather than Nvidia.
2. Boot game. Title screen will look completely oversaturated white.
3. Go to in-game options and select fullscreen OFF
4. Now change option back to Fullscreen ON
5. For some reason this now enables the HDR on the TV and displays the correct brightness. You can tell it working by either checking the signal using the remote home button, or looking at the moon on the title screen. You should be able to see the moon detail rather than just bright white.

My personal preference it use Standard picture display rather than Dynamic because the brightness is so much more but some people might not like this.

[darcy]

DO NOT use HDR in Windows settings. It is not required for HDR to work in games including Windows games.

[BigCNuggit]

Originally posted by darcy:

DO NOT use HDR in Windows settings. It is not required for HDR to work in games including Windows games.

This is false, it's required if the game doesn't have any in-menu activation. Which is all Windows games so far.

[Himitsu Lunefang]

I believe I've finally found something that works for HDR on Windows 10.

When on the desktop and in games that do not have an in-game option to activate HDR, got to Nvidia Control Panel then to Change Resolution.

After that, scroll to the bottom to option 3 and select Use Nvidia color settings. It should be set 32-bit RGB 8bpc Limited by default. Simply change the Output dynamic range from Limited to Full.

I definitely noticed a color change after doing this despite the TV not saying HDR in Info section.

Only do this for desktop or games that do not have an ingame option to activate HDR. If you do, it will look overly bright.

Also, make sure you have HDR on on your TV. In my case it was in Settings - General - External Device Manager - HDMI UHD Color then just select whichever input you have the PC plugged into.

My TV model is a Samsung UN40MU6300 and am now running on the latest Windows 10 build (1803), hope this helps someone!

And yes the HDR toggle in Windows doesn't do ♥♥♥♥!