Ending feels *spoilers*

[ziroonderel]

I've just finished with the plot, and man, the feels. I actually teared up during the credits campsite scene.

And I'm really conflicted about Noctis' death. I mean... it's a very good plot point. It would be really cheap if he didn't. It makes perfect sense and makes the story of the dynasty of the kings of Lucis complete. BUT AW MAN I DON'T WANT HIM DEAD :( What do you do with ending feels, if you have them?

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Eli Parker:

Originally posted by Chaos Residue:

Well since Noctis is dead that's not going to happen. Also the director has already said that his three friends who you last saw alive do live, but they don't have a very pleasant life.

I would agree that Noctis is died if they didn't add that final scene. So for me there is doubt about Noctis' fate.

The final scene that's a flashback meant to pull your heartstrings after seeing Noctis give up his own life (i.e.: die)?

[Eli Parker]

Originally posted by Orion:

Originally posted by Eli Parker:

I would agree that Noctis is died if they didn't add that final scene. So for me there is doubt about Noctis' fate.

The final scene that's a flashback meant to pull your heartstrings after seeing Noctis give up his own life (i.e.: die)?

Sorry for the mistake, I meant the scene with Noctis and Luna.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Eli Parker:

Originally posted by Orion:

The final scene that's a flashback meant to pull your heartstrings after seeing Noctis give up his own life (i.e.: die)?

Sorry for the mistake, I meant the scene with Noctis and Luna.

Afterlife. Even if you're in denial about Noctis, Luna is definitely dead.

[Eli Parker]

Originally posted by Orion:

Originally posted by Eli Parker:

Sorry for the mistake, I meant the scene with Noctis and Luna.

Afterlife. Even if you're in denial about Noctis, Luna is definitely dead.

*Facepalm. It isn't denial, the gods in the FFXV world can resurrect ppl and that scene makes it possible that they were brought back to life.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Eli Parker:

Originally posted by Orion:

Afterlife. Even if you're in denial about Noctis, Luna is definitely dead.

*Facepalm. It isn't denial, the gods in the FFXV world can resurrect ppl and that scene makes it possible that they were brought back to life.

They can? Where was that stated?

[Grad]

Originally posted by Eli Parker:

*Facepalm. It isn't denial, the gods in the FFXV world can resurrect ppl and that scene makes it possible that they were brought back to life.

They are most assuredely dead, it would make no sense for Noctis to tell his friends that he has to sacrifice himself to defeat Ardyn otherwise. Noctis was never to be king but rather to sacrifice himself to purge the daemon threat which he finds out when he is in the crystal for 10yrs. Noctis' soul inside the crystal even explodes into those white confetti like Ardyn and he says 'it's finally over' at the end.

Also it makes no sense that Noctis would get younger again in that scene with Luna on the undamaged throne. They are dead, but at least they are together in the afterlife. It's a touching post-credits scene but them coming back to life after everybody is dead would make no sense and take a ♥♥♥♥ on the entire plot.

[Xhal]

To me the story feels wierd and seems like they ran out of development time.

Basically half the main story from chapter 9 and plus you follow a really long straight hallway.

Tons of characters barely got any screen time : every empire character, luna, cor, iris.

Story feels botched.

You can see they created a huge city in altissia but you can visit maybe 10% of it.

They created this huge map in the empire but can't leave the train to go there.

Imperial city is the same 3-4 hallways and rooms copy pasted a thousand times.

Random villain who just wants to be bad for the hell of it and his story (if he has one) is never explained.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Xhal:

Random villain who just wants to be bad for the hell of it and his story (if he has one) is never explained.

You're right about the rest, but Ardyn does have a story, and it is explained, albeit loosely.

[Tenacity]

Originally posted by Creamy Goodness:

Also it makes no sense that Noctis would get younger again in that scene with Luna on the undamaged throne.

He definitely doesn't look younger to me. He lacks the beard, sure, but his facial structure looks much... older I guess.
Though I agree Noctis is dead.

[Xhal]

I read today an interview with a designer who said ignis prompto and gladio survive the final battle but that noctis is definately 100% dead.

https://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-xvs-director-clears-up-a-major-ending-plo-1805820500/amp

[ichimanju]

It's pretty sad we all weren't sure, it's that convoluted. I thought when the scene at the throne takes place in the afterlife was Noctis alive, because the sign in front of the throne reads "114th King" and in the afterlife he wouldn't be king, it's not necessary.

The director asked fans what they want to see for the, now being reworked on, true ending:
http://www.siliconera.com/2018/02/28/final-fantasy-xv-director-asks-fans-like-see-super-happy-ending/

[dostunuz]

Noctis died a virgin, also Luna too. ♥♥♥♥ this game.

[Bodhsativa]

Noctis and Luna are definitely dead, but I don't think that is at all relevant in FFXV. We see numerous times that THERE IS an afterlife, where people are themselves with their own thoughts and actions. (Or at least there is for those the crystal decides should have one. I mean, Luna keeps acting even after death, we have the 13 previous rulers of Lucis, not only talking, but being commanded by Ardyn, so... It isn't even a "ooh, now they're in death together" kind of bittersweet feeling. They are in the afterlife together, [b[]living[/b] happily.
The sad part is that Noctis is not with his friends. Honestly, I cried numerous times. The scene at the camp, during the credits killed me. Episode Ignis alternate info just made it all more melancholy. Like I knew it was coming, but my god, it was heavy. Towards the end of the game I really felt for all of them. If there's any single thing this game executed well, I think it is that.

[Cha0zb0rn]

In a world where you can get phoenix downs in every shop nobody dies forever :-P

[Xhal]

I didn't really get invested into the characters so didn't end up feeling anything at the end.

This whole story was a giant missed opportunity to me.

The fact that they created a ton of characters that you barely see and that none of it ends up mattering in the end.

You don't even see the emperor in the entire game. None of the fights against the empire really matter because they basically wipe themselves out.

They talk about tenebrae both in the movie and the game a lot and when you get there it seems beautiful but you get to spend a whole 5 mins there and talk to 4 people.

You get to nilfgaard and can't go anywhere, that clearly feels like a lack of development time and cut content.

Basically the whole thing smells of development problems. The fact they spent a ridiculous amount of years in development hell. Changed the game name, changed directors, changed the focus of the game.

Seems to me they failed to clearly define the kind of game they wanted to make before hand and the kind of story they wanted tell so they had to patch things up from already developped random bits and pieces.