Am i the only one who hates Gladios?

[Emmagination]

I'm still on chapter 10 but I can't stand the guy anymore. He's been an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ since the beginning of the journey but he's unbelievably self-centered and it keep getting worse. So far, that I can remember, there has only been 2 characters I've ever wanted to kick out from my party (normally I just do whatever it takes to keep everyone in)...Peebee from ME:A and now this ass...

[Orion Invictus]

Play Episode: Gladiolus if you want to know why he's a ♥♥♥♥.

[Emmagination]

Originally posted by Orion:

Play Episode: Gladiolus if you want to know why he's a ♥♥♥♥.

Yeah, I assume there's something in there and might even be a good reason but for a guy who keeps rambling on about duty he's notoriously bad at his...not to mention his beef is with Noctis but he's unloading on Prompto and Ignis now as well.

[CatPerson]

No you're not the only one...opinion can get pretty divided over Gladio. :)

I don't hate him but he did annoy me greatly while playing initially. He's not a chr. trope I like much in the first place, either, so that didn't help. I get the tough love sell but for me it doesn't work at all.

I warmed up to Prompto somewhat but never Gladio. If I could replace him with someone else I would. That said, he's useful in battle and after a long while I'm just ambivalent/ignore him. heh.

[ChaosLegionaire]

I wish Gladio was in Evangelion to straighten out that little punk of a MC.

[Nara]

Yeah, Gladio can be mean at times, but if anything defines true friends it's honesty. You know how you're unsure about what you can say with only decent friends? Barriers like that doesn't exist for Noctis and the team. Or rarely do they. Also, he's kinda the guy who tries the hardest to steer the boat to the finish line, so he sometimes says it as it is.

[Emmagination]

Originally posted by SWEDr Brobotnik:

Yeah, Gladio can be mean at times, but if anything defines true friends it's honesty. You know how you're unsure about what you can say with only decent friends? Barriers like that doesn't exist for Noctis and the team. Or rarely do they. Also, he's kinda the guy who tries the hardest to steer the boat to the finish line, so he sometimes says it as it is.

But that's exactly what I dislike about him, he's not honest..like, at all. He's a bully, thinks his problems are always bigger than the rest, brags about things he doesn't do and will just throw tantrums at the worst possible time.

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He has always resented Noct for whatever reason, like it's Noct's fault he's a prince and Gladios had to be his instructor and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about Noct not taking training seriously even though Noct had just been told his father was dying from overusing the ring so Noct needed to hurry up and learn everything about being a king.
Then Regis dies, and Gladios tells Noct to man up and that things were difficult for everyone and gives this speech about duty while apparently forgetting he's talking to his KING. Friends or not, when duty is apparently everything to you, you need to remember it in all aspects, not just the ones that suit you.

Afterwards he drills into Noctis the importance of the mission should take priority over everything else and that Noct needs to take it seriously...then proceeds to disappear mid-mission, does not inform his king why he needs to leave and even tells him he'd go with or without Noct's permission.

Later on Ignis loses his vision, Noct loses his fiancé and Gladios once again bullies Noct about how much "everybody lost" (really Gladios?)and that Noct needs to man up and proceeds to be really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ to Noct, calling him "his Majesty" at the same time he tells them he's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ leader for not staying next to Ignis at all times even though Prompto is with him and Noct keeps a conversation with Ignis who assures Noct he's ok but what does the blind guy know anyway? Gladios will decide he's now an invalid and needs everyone hugging him at all time...but guess what, when Ignis decides he's going to overcome his blindness who tells him he's useless and should be left behind? You got it, Gladios.

But hey, after not seeing Noctis for 10 years he's just a buddy again like nothing ever happened, right? ♥♥♥♥ off Gladios...

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Apologies for the rant, but I really hate two-faced people...

[theguynamedguy]

I completely understand where you're coming from, and I have a theory about what the real-world reason why Gladious (and the rest of the team) tend to be inconsistent at certain points in the story. The developers painted themselves into a corner when they decided to make the game focus so heavily on just four characters. So when they need to move the plot, or unload exposition, it has to include one of the four. Gladious had temporarily become a douchebag in order to further Noctis' character development because there wasn't an established douchebag in the main cast.

Obviously they could've handled it differently, and many writers have been able to weave complex emotions believeably into a small cast. But the FFXV writers weren't those writers. Or they were those writers, but decided to take a shortcut instead. Either way, it's unfortunate, but that's my theory behind many of the character decisions in the game's writing

[kurosov]

Tell me again how someone who is fully committed to sacrifice himself to protect someone else, is content with being their shield and dying like his father did, believes that person will accomplish great things and expects them to live up to his expectations is selfish.

Originally posted by Korvus:

He has always resented Noct for whatever reason, like it's Noct's fault he's a prince and Gladios had to be his instructor and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about Noct not taking training seriously even though Noct had just been told his father was dying from overusing the ring so Noct needed to hurry up and learn everything about being a king.

There is nothing wrong with expecting the person you are sword to give your life to protect to live up to expectations.

Originally posted by Korvus:

Then Regis dies, and Gladios tells Noct to man up and that things were difficult for everyone and gives this speech about duty while apparently forgetting he's talking to his KING. Friends or not, when duty is apparently everything to you, you need to remember it in all aspects, not just the ones that suit you.

Gladio's father also died. Noctis is supposed to LEAD, To make the tough decisions to tackle issues instead of avoid them.

Originally posted by Korvus:

Afterwards he drills into Noctis the importance of the mission should take priority over everything else and that Noct needs to take it seriously...then proceeds to disappear mid-mission, does not inform his king why he needs to leave and even tells him he'd go with or without Noct's permission.

He follows his own advice as he noticed his own inadequacies and worked to resolve them as best he knew how.

Originally posted by Korvus:

Later on Ignis loses his vision, Noct loses his fiancé and Gladios once again bullies Noct about how much "everybody lost" (really Gladios?)and that Noct needs to man up and proceeds to be really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ to Noct, calling him "his Majesty" at the same time he tells them he's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ leader for not staying next to Ignis at all times even though Prompto is with him and Noct keeps a conversation with Ignis who assures Noct he's ok but what does the blind guy know anyway? Gladios will decide he's now an invalid and needs everyone hugging him at all time...but guess what, when Ignis decides he's going to overcome his blindness who tells him he's useless and should be left behind? You got it, Gladios.

This is the point where Noctis should really step up to his role and he doesn't. He instead feels sorry for himself, is too ashamed to address Ignis. The "His Majesty" part is because Noctis clearly isn't ready for the responsibility.

Originally posted by Korvus:

But hey, after not seeing Noctis for 10 years he's just a buddy again like nothing ever happened, right? ♥♥♥♥ off Gladios...

Because he finally takes command, He's matured and more committed and capable of living up to the task.

[Bad_Conduct]

I'd say Gladios and Iggy are not really his friends, they both just work for him.

Prompto is his only real friend in the game, and maybe Iris.

[Emmagination]

Originally posted by kurosov:

There is nothing wrong with expecting the person you are sword to give your life to protect to live up to expectations.

Noctis was a kid...hell, Gladio's own sister was not even allowed to wander on her own but Noct, who is only 5 years older, should already behave like a king?

Originally posted by kurosov:

Gladio's father also died. Noctis is supposed to LEAD, To make the tough decisions to tackle issues instead of avoid them.

Another reason to be a bloody human being...Gladios obviously knows nothing of command or responsibilities of being "chosen" so he should probably stick to his areas of expertise.

Originally posted by kurosov:

He follows his own advice as he noticed his own inadequacies and worked to resolve them as best he knew how.

So he abandons the group? Isn't giving no thought to anything but the mission Gladios' own advice? Or does that only apply to Noct? How well do you think Gladios would have reacted if Prompto had just said "well, I'm off for a while. Bye!"? Sure, Gladios has things he needed to deal with but so does everybody else, and that's not a good enough reason for Mr Duty, except when it's his own stuff... (Disclaimer: I have not played the DLCs yet, but whatever happen he should have repored to he kng bfore he left, instead of being a snarky ass about not needing permission)

Originally posted by kurosov:

This is the point where Noctis should really step up to his role and he doesn't. He instead feels sorry for himself, is too ashamed to address Ignis. The "His Majesty" part is because Noctis clearly isn't ready for the responsibility.

I agree Noctis at this point needs to carry on but nothing Noct can say or do appeases the bully. He's too busy feeling self-important to try and keep the team together; but let me guess, that's Noctis' job, right?

Originally posted by kurosov:

Because he finally takes command, He's matured and more committed and capable of living up to the task.

And Gladios knows this within 3 minutes of seeing Noctis? What, "you grew a beard, you must be an amazing kind now"?

Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:

I'd say Gladios and Iggy are not really his friends, they both just work for him.

Prompto is his only real friend in the game, and maybe Iris.

I think Ignis started as a babysitter but ended up really caring about Noct. He's nothing but supportive and encouraging and even at great personal pahe's still there fighting through his limitations in order to help Noct. I feel that after Regis died Ignis took upon himself to be even more of a father figure.

[D.Kay]

Just play the episodes,they expand the characters much better.They have a duty to fufill,but also think of Noct as a friend and a king.

[Emmagination]

Originally posted by DrakeKay:

Just play the episodes,they expand the characters much better.They have a duty to fufill,but also think of Noct as a friend and a king.

Will do. Just finishing chapter 14 as we speak so will get to the DLCs soon.

[Vallon]

Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:

I'd say Gladios and Iggy are not really his friends, they both just work for him.

Prompto is his only real friend in the game, and maybe Iris.

Yep, I felt the same way. Though after I played Episode Ignis, I feel like he's a friend to Noctis as well. In fact he's the only one who cares enough to try and relieve Noctis of his duty, something everyone else wants him to fulfil.

Gladiolus, however, never seemed like one. Ever. He's just a bodyguard that dares speak like he does to his King, which always struck me as baffling. Even at the very end he does that, but I guess Noctis isn't the type to demand respect from his subjects anyway.

[the mcguff]

Apart from all the other character flaws he has, Gladiolus really loses it for me in the fishing missions. Although my Noctis is maxed out as a fisherman with the best equipment and several trophies to his credit, Gladiolus continues to give bad advice during the fishing episodes. Just remember, this is coming from a guy who has never caught a fish and only knows how to eat them. Total waste as a friend in myopinion. Lol.

[SoulEchelon]

I'm gonna have to emphatically disagree. Gladio is the more blunt out of the group, definitely. But he is in no way an "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥" to anyone, especially Noctis. Yes, they aren't always on the same wavelength. Yes, Gladio tends to be hard on Noctis sometimes. But that's because he's not only Noctis' friend, bodyguard, and appointed Shield, he's also his trainer. If you watch the 5 episode anime - specifically the episode where Gladio is focused on, you can see where their relationship began, and why Gladio acts the way he does with Noct, and vice versa.

Also, I've been carefully going through every single side quest I can before continuing the narrative and I can safely say these two guys are great friends. There's a "hidden" camp quest where Gladio tells Noct about a hard to catch fish, and seeing them interact throughout said quest made me smile. They really do care for each other.

However at the same time, there are situations where Noct is being his typical introverted self, and Gladio pushes him to man up. He's not doing this to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. He's doing this because he wants Noct to succeed, and being constantly down on himself or ignoring advice are things that Gladio must look out for and squash before it gets any worse. Same goes for the other guys - Gladio's the drill seargent of the group. He's hard on Prompto quite a bit too, because Prompto isn't disciplined and whines alot. Gladio knows everyone in this group is important and are needed to protect their king.

Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:

I'd say Gladios and Iggy are not really his friends, they both just work for him.

Prompto is his only real friend in the game, and maybe Iris.

Whoo boy is this not the case. Just because someone is hard on someone else at times doesn't make them not friends. Throughout much of Ignis' life, he lived with Noctis. Took care of him, helped him keep his life in order, and stuck by him. He was practically Noct's step father for years while he went to school, since his real father was always busy being the king of course. This is why Ignis can be tough on Noct too sometimes. He wants him to succeed just as much as Gladio does.

Prompto is his buddy. He wants Noct to succeed too, but he's not disciplined enough to go the extra mile Gladio and Ignis does. Instead, he's comic relief - which is fine! We all need that funny friend to keep us going. I got nothing against Prompto (Though I'll admit he's my least favorite character. Just a tad bit too whiny at times. Every time I go into a new dungeon I begin frowning a little because his complaints kinda ruin the experience for me. He has other great aspects about him though so he's cool in my book. Just not "perfect").

TL;DR - Ignis is the doting parent. He advises the group. Gladio is the drill seargent. He keeps the group in line. Prompto is the comic relief buddy. He keeps a smile on everyone's faces. They'll argue, fight, piss each other off, and even potentially throw a blow or two...but that's what true friends do. They build each other up, and don't stay passive when they see a friend isn't doing their best.