Too bummed out to even play the DLC Spoilers thread

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I hate endings that don't show what other characters are doing, oh look the here comes the sun do do do do, who gives a fk?! Where are the people?! SHOW ME PEOPLE LIVING LIFE AFTER NOCTIS PULLED SOME JESUS STUFF.

But we get to see them kiss as ghosts and be married as ghosts....trash.

Newsflash, Final Fantasy Advent Children did it first and better, Zack and Aerith didn't get married, but they're together in the life stream and can still interact with the world in a way, keeping their memory alive.

Prompto pretty mcuh lies they him and Cindy are together because he didn't show us the receipts.

We didn't even get to see Time Skip Cindy or Iris. Time Skip Talcott showed up one time and that was it.We didn't get a time skip Monica and she was like Cor's right hand woman. DIdn't say if she died or not...


Oh and the how world of ruin crap, Final Fantasy VI did it better >.>


All the DLC is pretty much prequel nonsense, no point in playing it honestly, it's not canon except Comrades and even that is just some Monster Hunter Lite garbage.

Then they had the nerve to have a new game+, for what? To play this terrible story all over again? No thaniks!!! It's bad enough that you put the post game content right before you fight the final boss instead of in an epilougue style part of the game.

6/10, not bad, but not good, still better than FFXIII, will not play again or touch the DLC. Should've let Nomura finish HIS game. We would've got a better product. I have no hype for FFXVI at all, especially if the same director is doing it.

Time to move on to Nino Kuni 2.

[Epic_Caesura]

"Prequel nonsense"? The dlcs happen literally in the middle of the main story, to the extent that it's a little clumsy and intrusive.

[Bodhsativa]

Originally posted by Epic_Caesura:

"Prequel nonsense"? The dlcs happen literally in the middle of the main story, to the extent that it's a little clumsy and intrusive.

Also, all of them are Canon? This guys on one. Seems upset tbh.

[明星ヒマリ]

The plot is a fine mess. They clearly rushed the game and never put much thought in fleshing out the plot and the content and instead focus most of their resources and time in developing the graphics.

[Xengre]

Zack and Aerith aren't actually together in the lifestream and Zack will eventually be fully desolved. They may both exist in the lifestream but they aren't a couple or anything of the sort. Aerith due to being a cetra will retain her individual will for far far longer but, theoretically, not indefinitely. Zack can't interact with the world at all other than the visual (arguably nonsensical) Advent Children scene. Aerith can. Aerith and Cloud is still the dominant coupling but that is going off track.

Sadly we did not get to see some characters post time skip.

Can't understand your line about Prompto/Cindy.

The DLC Is cannon and happens mid story.

Nomura is part of the reason it took so long, but by no means THE main reason. This was due to the engine technologies (not just graphics, either) they were trying to develop to support their goal with FFXIII Versus/FFXV.

Originally posted by Ricotta:

The plot is a fine mess. They clearly rushed the game and never put much thought in fleshing out the plot and the content and instead focus most of their resources and time in developing the graphics.

See my above statement. It is somewhat a mess though rushed isn't the correct word for it. The game was intended to be overwhelmingly larger than what we got but massive content had to be cut to meet their deadlines (earlier info from Tabata suggested potentially 10x larger, and it was originally supposed to even be 3x games when Nomura was in charge). Due to issues with Nomura constantly changing so much and restarting the project over in addition to the core problem of developing the right engine to support their intended game nearly all 10 years had no real development. The final game was actually, basically, made in a year and half. Sucks, but now that they have such impressive tools from Luminous studio that let them accomplish what they did with FFXV in a year and half hopefully we will avoid developement hell with the next FF entry.

[Shkeeee]

You didn't see much of Aerith and Zack either. Thinking about it, they could've been apart of Cloud's psyche and not the actual duo. He hallucinates both in FF7, and in some parts of the movie. I'd say the two did the exact same, showing two characters who have died briefly in the beyond.

You don't know what Prompto, Ignis and Gladio have been up to while you were in the crystal. That's kind of the point. Plot hole or not, the story revolves mostly around Noctis. Leaving some things unseen while he's in the crystal is reasonable. And when does Prompto ever lie in the game anyway? You're sort of assuming actions that would be completely out of character for Prompto.

The Cindy, Cid and Iris thing after the ten year skip is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, because you do see them. Play the comrades DLC. They're in Lestallum keeping the place alive, she isn't a daemon hunter or anything. She sells used clothes. Cor doesn't let her because of the dangers. Monica is also there. She cooks the food from the ingredients you gather on hunts. Noctis can't exactly put Ardyn on hold to visit long time friends. The world is in peril, and the settlements can fall at any moment, so Noctis makes his way to the Crown City as soon as he gathers Prompto, Gladio and Ignis.

And the world of ruin crap? The whole idea is to show how bleak things have become in Noct's absence because Ardyn, the founder king who was cast aside in favor of Noctis and now wants revenge on the Caelum family was in control of the throne, and releases daemons all over the world and blanketing it in eternal darkness to keep them roaming, putting everyone in danger just to ♥♥♥♥ with Noctis when he gets back and his friends. FFVI's version had a clown move a triad out of place and the world starts to die.

DLC is canon. It shows what happens in the respective character's absences. The only DLC which was not canon was the second ending to Episode Ignis, which clearly stated that it wasn't from the getgo.

The new game plus thing is reasonable. It doesn't change much, but to call the game ♥♥♥♥ in its current state is absolutely moronic.

But leaving Nomura to finish HIS game? No. The plot is fine in the current state. Every game will have a hole or two. If Nomura kept on with this game, you'd have a weird up and down story like the Kingdom Hearts series. Hajime Tabata is a legendary director. He worked on Crisis Core as a director, and that's arguably the most well recieved and most loved Final Fantasy title to date. He also worked on the other spin offs for FF7 excluding Advent Children.

I'm not quite sure if you paid attention to the story the game was trying to convey, or you're just writing this random essay for attention because all of your quarrels could've been solved with a quick search up or even playing some chapters again. Could be that you're a dumb dumb tho lol :)

[Epic_Caesura]

Originally posted by Ricotta:

They clearly rushed the game.

This game has plenty of weaknesses, but one thing we can be very certain of is that it wasn't rushed.

[ichimanju]

The whole wander an empty office building for three hours in chapter 13 sorta killed my enthusiasm for any thing past that. That and the closed train ride through a whole other land area they will apparently never develop.

But, yeah, the office building part, for over three hours- in a Final Fantasy game. Wow.