Best ending explanation

[Ramzah]

This link[gamefaqs.gamespot.com] has the best explanation for the ending i found so far.

For those who don't want to scroll thru the link:
> Why did every King stab Noctis?

In order to gain the best of the Crystal power one must resign his life. Noctis is collecting the power of every former king who was blessed by the Crystal to kill the "Daemon Ardyn" who's immortal.

>How did he meet Ardyn in some farplane world and summoned KOTR on him?

That farplane is the inside of the Crystal. Or some stuff like it. You get the idea. Ardyn is here since he Always gets taken back by the Crystal and the daemon power, consider it his dark souls bonfire.

>And how is Luna alive again at the end when she died?

This is the hardest one.
They actually both died, that scene is up to the interpretation of people,, one might think that it is afterlife, another might think it's a dream etc.
I honestly believe it's a dream like-symbolic scene that concludes their journey, like, they got married but there's no one outside in insomnia to celebrate them, only a dog (Which is a a god so he can do whatever)
I think the game just wants to tell you their journey has ended, in their final dream they can kiss and finally sleep and die together, side by side.
I don't want to sound like an ass but I think my interpretation is the correct one, not because of some super documented stuff but just because...I dunno...doesn't is seem weird to suggest they are in a happily ever afterlife with the image and the concept of "sleep"? If they really wanted to show them happy and married after death, I think we would have got a much brighter and less bittersweet and "peaceful" closure.


i might also add that this game heavily takes from other final fantasy ideas and concept. for instance, the fact that there is a strange, weird world inside the Crystal is something out ff9, and that it actually could apply to the whole saga.

moreover.
The Crystal world of ff9 suggest that every world of every ff is born from the Crystal, and inside the Crystal every world is there in potential, so I guess we can conclude that the dream that luna and noctis are living ,the one before they finally go to sleep, is in the "crystal world", permitted and granted by the Crystal power to literally shape worlds and memories.
In fact, you can clearly see that before the logo pops in, both our heroes are surrounded by pieces of the Crystal.



PS: Friends aren't dead, the camp scene is a flashback to the first camp you do after reaching dark/hammerhead, if you remember the game tells you that they spent a last night togheter, but it doesn't go into details: the simply moved that scene from that moment into the ending, I personally loved it.

Of course it's up to personal opinion and there's much speculation involved, but this does make pretty much sense and also is in line with what Tabata said in an interview about the ending.

[Dreamzera]

The choco bros are dead too, they died defending the palace entrance while noctis was ahving the final fight, want proof of that? They appear in the Echo , together with noctis, regis , luna, and the kings. To get inside the Echo , one must be dead, and thats why noctis have to die in the 1st place, so he can reach ardyn in there.

[DeadZeus]

Originally posted by Gunnar:

The choco bros are dead too, they died defending the palace entrance while noctis was ahving the final fight, want proof of that? They appear in the Echo , together with noctis, regis , luna, and the kings. To get inside the Echo , one must be dead, and thats why noctis have to die in the 1st place, so he can reach ardyn in there.

Wrong

[Ramzah]

Originally posted by Gunnar:

The choco bros are dead too, they died defending the palace entrance while noctis was ahving the final fight, want proof of that? They appear in the Echo , together with noctis, regis , luna, and the kings. To get inside the Echo , one must be dead, and thats why noctis have to die in the 1st place, so he can reach ardyn in there.

That is exactly what game director Tabata commented on
Noctis and luna are dead, the bros are not.

[Dreamzera]

Originally posted by Ramzah:

Originally posted by Gunnar:

The choco bros are dead too, they died defending the palace entrance while noctis was ahving the final fight, want proof of that? They appear in the Echo , together with noctis, regis , luna, and the kings. To get inside the Echo , one must be dead, and thats why noctis have to die in the 1st place, so he can reach ardyn in there.

That is exactly what game director Tabata commented on
Noctis and luna are dead, the bros are not.

If they are alive i dont like that end then, make it less heroic and "selfsacrificing" for the greater good, they should have died as tragic heroes do in a tragic heroic story , which ff15 is , the happy end is for the others not for the main cast =p ... bleh ... ill still think they died too =p

[Ackerlight]

Originally posted by Ramzah:

descibe the ending

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100% correct

Noct and Luna are dead and the bros are alive

[Bankai9212]

The ending will be explained with more future dlc.

[Lepeon]

A random link from a random one who didnt understant 30% of whats going on isnt a "best link"
I only read 1/4 of your textwall and there is already 2 major flaw ,i stopped to read at "luna was alive".
Ardyn's power is not link with crystal therefor the crystal cant(or wont) interact directly with ardyn.
Luna is dead PLAIN DEAD.
Bros is alive,on the "echo realm"(i dont think it is,its more of an regular aetherial realm),if kings of lucy was there its because a part of them fuse with noctis at the throne ritual (the striking thing is only an art direction there is many form of it but in the end it is only a handshake),Luna did the same thing to Ardyn(she imbued him with light(some part of her) before dying).

On the "echo realm",there is no rule that say: "all those who have got represent there need to die before",therefor only Noctis and Ardyn was really there all other people shown was an image copy born by special ritual(bros copy was there cause devs sorted "bonds/feelings" as a special ritual).

I think bros is alive because of the bros 'snap of the end after darkness.
Camera can take shot of Gentiana and Carbuncle when they wasnt visible to Noctis &friends therefor cam can take shot of special being/special souls.
Oracle lineage people & special king of lucii's cannot rest after death,they are constraint to stay in the world like a ghost so its the case for Luna&Noctis reunite after death to watch their wolrd with other special kings of kingdom and all Oracle's people.

[Ramzah]

Originally posted by Lepeon:

A random link from a random one who didnt understant 30% of whats going on isnt a "best link"
I only read 1/4 of your textwall and there is already 2 major flaw ,i stopped to read at "luna was alive".

I'm sorry but i can't help you with your laziness/stubborness, but if you were to change your mind, you'd notice the "walltext" is in the form of Q.A. And the part you are referring to is a question, not a statement.

[Xhal]

Whole story is convoluted and poorly explained in the game.

Basically the game was stuck in development hell for years and they brought in a new director who had to salvage the project with what they had already made and we ended up with huge parts of the game cut (basically everything outside Lucis).

Following a straight hallway for 4 hours. Characters who are mentionned but you never meet or meet for 20 seconds and the different parts of the story not fitting together at all and not making sense.

A one note generic villain whom we know almost nothing about and who felt more like he was trying to imitate the joker from the batman arkham series the whole game.

They are apparently working on more DLC to fix the mess the story is and explain it more and change the ending to not be the garbage it is.

[Lepeon]

Originally posted by Ramzah:

Originally posted by Lepeon:

A random link from a random one who didnt understant 30% of whats going on isnt a "best link"
I only read 1/4 of your textwall and there is already 2 major flaw ,i stopped to read at "luna was alive".

I'm sorry but i can't help you with your laziness/stubborness, but if you were to change your mind, you'd notice the "walltext" is in the form of Q.A. And the part you are referring to is a question, not a statement.

Fair enough still it only eliminate 1 flaw,whats up with the other one?
I read the full wall of text.
So in the "so called" answer it is only a partly correct with an assumption like,what i've wrote is set in solid stone through the gameplay.
Yes i have misread the QA like terms but still im not not out of the window.So care to explain me Where i was wrong outside of q a like terms and what ive done to earn some kind of animosity?
Yes i am LAZY but nothing in my text show that.

Edit:For completness.

[dostunuz]

Why are you hiding your post which you clearly said ending on title.

[That Blind Person]

Tabita also stated the ending was left vague (and having no defined "Truth") on purpose so fans could believe the ending to be whatever they wanted it to be..Tabita also states XV has nothing to do with FF13 or FF7 which is a boldface lie. So take anything Tabita says with a grain of salt lol. (salt pun not entirely intended)

I personally like to envision the end as an entire world created by the crystal for Lunafreya and Noctis to have a moment just for them, frozen in time, awaiting the next cycle...a moments respite

At the very end of the credits when that tear-jerking song plays (Q_Q) a slightly revised version of the beginning of the game occurs where Gladio notes how he hopes they aren't stuck in some repeating moment (I don't remember his exact wording) something akin to deja-vu, this implies that the events of XV are nothing but a cycle that has been repeating over and over again maybe even across timelines, there are theories as to why but nothing concrete AFAIK.

So to me the ending is a moment in time for them to be together, Lunafreya even states her desire to Gentiana being "She wants to always be at his side" which is exactly where she is in the ending, and whenever the crystals power manifests itself those crystal particles shimmer everywhere (this is seen throughout the game, even when Noctis/Bros/Cor/Glavies "summon" their weapons.

Further support can be seen in Comrades loading screens "Their lives on loan from the bladekeeper" and as heard in game a "Blood price must be paid" so it stands to reason all 3 bro's HAD to die at the end, that was the price for using the kings power despite not being "Chosen" (also to note is Ignis using the ring of Lucii which incurred a cost), this also implies all Glaives eventually pay with their lives as well.

[Bankai9212]

Tabita also stated the ending was left vague (and having no defined "Truth") on purpose so fans could believe the ending to be whatever they wanted it to be..Tabita also states XV has nothing to do with FF13 or FF7 which is a boldface lie. So take anything Tabita says with a grain of salt lol. (salt pun not entirely intended)


To me that's a lazy way of saying. We rushed the plot and ending at the end.

[That Blind Person]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Tabita also stated the ending was left vague (and having no defined "Truth") on purpose so fans could believe the ending to be whatever they wanted it to be..Tabita also states XV has nothing to do with FF13 or FF7 which is a boldface lie. So take anything Tabita says with a grain of salt lol. (salt pun not entirely intended)


To me that's a lazy way of saying. We rushed the plot and ending at the end.

And you can thank the board of directors at Square-Enix for that, despite Tabita and Nomura asking for at least 1 more year of development, they forced a deadline on XV...thanks alot SE.

(So yes it was hella rushed)

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by That Blind Person:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Tabita also stated the ending was left vague (and having no defined "Truth") on purpose so fans could believe the ending to be whatever they wanted it to be..Tabita also states XV has nothing to do with FF13 or FF7 which is a boldface lie. So take anything Tabita says with a grain of salt lol. (salt pun not entirely intended)


To me that's a lazy way of saying. We rushed the plot and ending at the end.

And you can thank the board of directors at Square-Enix for that, despite Tabita and Nomura asking for at least 1 more year of development, they forced a deadline on XV...thanks alot SE.

(So yes it was hella rushed)

It was in dev hell for a good few years, asking for more time was out of the question.