Why FF15´s story and cast turned out to be so bad?

[legendary pair of shoes]

So the movie far from perfect but still has an engaging story of epic proportions and an great cast while FF15 received a weirdo cast and a nonexistant story. What happened? Did they use the main story in favour for the movie and left FF15 back with some k-pop infants cruisin´ around in World of Warcraft?

Any chance that future ff´s will be better?

[Zaum]

played till chapter 8 on release on ps4 - loved the game, the story and the characters, last anime I watched was samurai champloo about 10 years ago. Just got it on sale for my 2080ti rig, cant wait.

[Exarch_Alpha]

引用自 wololo!：

Who gives a nickel about if there is any or how good the story in FF15 is?

I guess you expected the wrong of this game. Most of us want to have some fun with simple exploration and combat while watching some sexy boys.

NANI?

Also the combat is not very good, but if it was Noctis alone there would be a riot. "OMG whY not 4 pÊOple ParTY?!? OMGZ BLUB BLUB BLUB *convulsion*"

[Lestrad]

I'll be honest, I spent most of the game wishing Ardyn would plant a car bomb. I'm all for a moody protagonist (I liked Cloud and absolutely loved Lightning), but this was just silly. These guys are supposed to be royal guards, not a teen boy band.

Between the annoying twit that is Prompto and Vladimir "I'm to sexy for my shirt" Putin's wannabe body double, Ignis was the only one I could actually stomach. When the secondary guest characters are more interesting than the ones your stuck with for the entire game... I would say you have a pretty big problem. I spent much of the game wishing Ardyn, a villian I didn't (or wasn't made to) care about in the slightest, would just plant a car bomb and get the lot of them (the stolen car segment ended disappointingly).

Then we get to the (I guess) Leviathan fight and that's when I stopped playing. Total unnecessary BS. Had it not been for the fact that some coworkers convincved me to "push through, it gets better" (it didn't), I likely would never have finished this. Then, right when we were promised a proper ending to the game, and content for characters actually worth caring about (Aranea and Lunafreya) the DLC gets canned. Insert slow clap here. Then their was the glitch that allowed you to get Aranea in your party permanently, and they patched it out (again, go figure).

And this is all ignoring the fact that combat, and more so the "leveling" system) was Nioh levels of trash. Your level had seemingly no effect on combat whatsoever to the point that you could be (what, for an RPG would be considered to be) vastly over-levelled and still get crushed by a quest mob.

Don't get me wrong, the game is beautiful, and the world at least somewhat compelling... but to me this is just another game that shows that no amount of glitter can disguise what this game is.

For the record, my dream party for Noctis would have been:

Lunafreya, Aranea, Cor
Optional Party Members: Titus, Gentiana, Cindy, Iris

[Eldrin]

引用自 Mrbud420 💩：

引用自 Narchivere：

Been playing this for a few hours now and I don't see any implications that the cast of characters are bunch of homosexuals at all. A prince growing up with friends who became his bodyguards =/= gay...

Also, this is my first Final Fantasy game but I think its kind of crazy how much hate this one gets when every time I start the game it reads, "A Final Fantasy For Fans & First Time Players".

Are you even paying attention to the game. Do you not see how they move, act, talk, is all their gayness really that invisible to people. Take a look at these 4 shirtless men sleeping in a tent together then look at Cloud from FF7.

Cloud doesn't look gay talk gay or act gay he doesn't even like people getting to close to him. Cant picture him Barrett and the rest of the team sleeping shirtless in a tent together.

When i was in the military we had 10-16 guys packed like sardines sleeping in 1 tent, yet nobody was gay.

We talked crap and made gay jokes non stop every day picking fun at each other, still not a single person in my battalion was gay.

Nothing the characters do in this game is gay, its all bro friendship and camaraderie.

[Exarch_Alpha]

About Cor, the way he died made laugh. FFS he isn´t burned at all, is this rated 12+?

[Exarch_Alpha]

Dude, they fight robots and don´t die with one shot. To expect realism in FF is pretty stupid.

[Devil Hunter]

引用自 Exarch_Alpha：

About Cor, the way he died made laugh. FFS he isn´t burned at all, is this rated 12+?

I didn't get the impression that he died, just that he was injured to the point of being exhausted. He mentions that he hopes to see Noctis again at the dawn, which means he has every intention of living through this. Noctis doesn't really know what to say to that because he knows that even though Cor might live through this, he certainly won't.

[Truen]

引用自 Ryu_Sheng：

引用自 John：

feman, over-gesticulating, and cliché "queery" behaviour.

so basically normal JRPG tropes?

Yeah...the male characters are quite cringe inducing; but, the game has a great many virtues in spite of that. I really enjoy FF15 and think it's one of my favorite titles of its kind to date.

[Exarch_Alpha]

引用自 Devil Hunter：

I didn't get the impression that he died, just that he was injured to the point of being exhausted. He mentions that he hopes to see Noctis again at the dawn, which means he has every intention of living through this. Noctis doesn't really know what to say to that because he knows that even though Cor might live through this, he certainly won't.

Still too childish. Compare it with the burning of a certain character in W3.

Maybe the series loses appeal to older people. It isn´t a matter of gore porn but realism.

[ΛΞL™⚡]

I found all the characters to be annoying anime stereotypes not saying all stereotypes in animes are bad but in FFXV they made them feel super generic lacking any individual personality.

- Noctis is just the standard conflicted guy torn between duty and relationships;
- Prompto is the over the top annoying loud cheerful guy that hides his sadness;
- Ignis is basically the male hosewive/loyal servant stereotype;
- Gladious is the semi dumb but caring muscle guy stereotype.

Combine that with a unfinished generic save the world from evil plot and you get a writing disaster like FFXV.

[legendary pair of shoes]

引用自 ༺⚜️G92⚜️༻：

I found all the characters to be annoying anime stereotypes not saying all stereotypes in animes are bad but in FFXV they made them feel super generic lacking any individual personality.

- Noctis is just the standard conflicted guy torn between duty and relationships;
- Prompto is the over the top annoying loud cheerful guy that hides his sadness;
- Ignis is basically the male hosewive/loyal servant stereotype;
- Gladious is the semi dumb but caring muscle guy stereotype.

Combine that with a unfinished generic save the world from evil plot and you get a writing disaster like FFXV.

true

[Exarch_Alpha]

By that POV FF VI and Chrono Trigger would suck too.

Ardyn was at least as capable as Kefka and better as a character IMO. At least in the last half.

[Sylphie Fioré]

引用自 Sandra GIGI ☃︎☚：

I can second that.

But can you thirdsies it?

[KAiN-]

oi still talking about FFXV crap ?

[Purzifal]

引用自 Cassy：

So the movie far from perfect but still has an engaging story of epic proportions and an great cast while FF15 received a weirdo feman only cast and a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ nonexistant story. What the hell happened? Did they use the main story in favour for the movie and left FF15 back with some k-pop infants cruisin´ around in World of Warcraft?

Any chance that future ff´s will be more about what made final fantasy great or is developing yaoi boy love games like FF15 still their main agenda?

are you sure your playing the same game? i rather enjoyed the story line, while not thier strongest story for an FF game it was still rather enjoyable for me. Chapter 13 lost me a little bit but aside that, i thought it was fine.

If your just going though blitzing the story line then i can see why you dislike it, there is way more to the game then just the story, its the lore, exploration, character development, side quests (some where rather interesting).

One of thier focuses on the game was to appeal to a wider market other than fans of FF games and as a result, they had to comprimise a bit on thier normal way of doing things. FFXV is way better than the mess that was XIII