Why ardyn exist?

[Jt]

So, for Noctus to save the world, he just has to wear the ring and ask those former kings to kill him. Then why Ardyn has to die? I just don't understand the story. Anyone care to explain?

[zhulq]

Ardyn infected himself the Starscourge plague from some of the infected people when he tried to heal them and that gave him a form of immortality. Noctis is the chosen one that can kill him permanently.

[Nia夕莉]

play episode ardyn dlc (or watch it on youtube if you don't like spending money but it's worth to)

it explains all of it

[One Stoned Bastard]

Originally posted by johntamch:

So, for Noctus to save the world, he just has to wear the ring and ask those former kings to kill him. Then why Ardyn has to die? I just don't understand the story. Anyone care to explain?

As far as I can tell, Ardyn is the physical carrier for the thing that made the day go away in the first place. Kill him for good and you kill the Darkness (for now).

A better question is why does Noctis have to die? Other than because Jesus Christ had to, so screw it, it's the end of the game. FFX for example had a good reason for Crybaby (and some other people) to die, that was explained and integrated within some sort of previously-established rules.

I mean, *I* can think of a good reason why Noctis should die, and it's a pretty obvious reason at that, but then I realize I'm starting to write my own story for the game...

[Mr Compassionate]

Imagine if Jesus took on everybody's sins but then the sins corrupted him to a path of evil. Now imagine you could kill all those sins if you killed Jesus but Jesus is invincible until destiny aligns and you kill both his physical form and his spiritual form. This is what happened.

[Jt]

Thanks. I guess now I kind of understand but the idea that Ardyn can only be killed (spiritually) only when ?his destiny fulfilled" is really hard to grasp.

Originally posted by Mr Compassionate:

Imagine if Jesus took on everybody's sins but then the sins corrupted him to a path of evil. Now imagine you could kill all those sins if you killed Jesus but Jesus is invincible until destiny aligns and you kill both his physical form and his spiritual form. This is what happened.

[Jt]

Now, my interpretation is that Noctus need to die and become spirtual form to kill spirtual form of ardyn. I guess....

Originally posted by One Stoned Bastard:

Originally posted by johntamch:

So, for Noctus to save the world, he just has to wear the ring and ask those former kings to kill him. Then why Ardyn has to die? I just don't understand the story. Anyone care to explain?

As far as I can tell, Ardyn is the physical carrier for the thing that made the day go away in the first place. Kill him for good and you kill the Darkness (for now).

A better question is why does Noctis have to die? Other than because Jesus Christ had to, so screw it, it's the end of the game. FFX for example had a good reason for Crybaby (and some other people) to die, that was explained and integrated within some sort of previously-established rules.

I mean, *I* can think of a good reason why Noctis should die, and it's a pretty obvious reason at that, but then I realize I'm starting to write my own story for the game...

[NuhUh]

Horrible story.

[CatPerson]

Originally posted by johntamch:

Now, my interpretation is that Noctus need to die and become spirtual form to kill spirtual form of ardyn. I guess....

That's how I saw it. Since Ardyn is immortal, killing his mortal form isn't a permanent solution and Noctis had to die to bring the power of the crystal/past kings that he absorbs into that spiritual realm or purgatory or whatever to assign Ardyn to oblivion.

Of course supposedly (sorta Ardyn DLC spoilers I guess) Ifrit is the one who actually brought the Starscrouge about when he got mad at humanity and brought down the meteor (I think that's the story, anyone can correct me if I have it "wrong" heh) and Ardyn was used in some fashion to deal with it, and now is an immortal carrier/can spread it around so the only way to purge it (for some reason) is have some chosen-one sap do what Bahamut wants.

[Ash]

Noctis dies because that's the price that's paid for using the Astral's power. Covenants formed with the Astrals will take physical tolls on the humans who make them, seen with Luna who was already going to die whether or not Ardyn stabbed her. This is also seen when Ignis loses his eyesight, or Nyx in Kingsglaive.

Because Luna made the covenants for Noctis, Noctis saw no physical effects from using the might of the gods or summons. However, forging the covenant with Bahamut, summoning all Kings of Lucis, and taking their power into the ring most likely is what killed him.

It can be assumed that Noctis didn't phyically meet Ardyn in that spirit realm. Gladio, Ignis, and Prompto most likely found his body sitting on the throne where he absorbed the Kings.

Ardyn was a healer in ancient times who was destined to become the first King of Lucis, but by healing the people, he was actually just taking their Starscourge into himself. Long story short, (Go watch/play Episode Ardyn), he has become the embodiment of the Scourge and is why it's being spread around Eos. He's gained a position in the Empire in order to torment Noctis and the Lucian line until he can finally kill the Chosen King and consume the world in darkness as revenge against the Gods and Lucians.

By using the power of Gods and Kings combined, Noctis is able to transcend death and finally obliterate not only Ardyn's phyical body, but his soul in the beyond. This essentially wipes out the Starscourge and puts an end to Ardyn's immortality.

[One Stoned Bastard]

Originally posted by johntamch:

Now, my interpretation is that Noctus need to die and become spirtual form to kill spirtual form of ardyn. I guess....

I guess so, too. A better reason would have been to avoid repeating what happened to Ardyn (basically cheat the corruption).

[Exarch_Alpha]

This game would be twice better if playing as Ardyn was the prologue.

[dr2d2]

Because square enix needed a villan i dont know lore wise

[Drakzen]

Arydn became the carrier of the scourge, the only way to rid the world of it is by using the power of kings and the 6 astrals to remove it from the world.

Using the ring of the Lucii Noctis normally is very draining (Any others suffer some form of price if the former kings accept them like Ignis going blind or Nyx dying) so using it on such a large scale kills him.

[El Guapo]

Because we wouldn't even have got this one last DLC whitout him.