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Twitch streamer WeeGee The God is a liar, thief, fraud, and scumbag clickbaiter!
Can somebody explain it to me how did WeeGee The God gets a refund, even though he has played in 2 hours and 47 mins?! In addition, he has also abused and lied to Valve and SEGA when he submitted Steam refund request. This is preposterous and ridiculous!

WeeGee The God: http://steamcommunity.com/id/WEEGEETHEGOD/games/?tab=recent
https://twitter.com/WEEGEETHEGOD/status/929878191514189824

Aaron Webber: "It's potentially abuse because you lied on your request for refund, claiming you had bought the wrong game. "
https://twitter.com/RubyEclipse/status/930943546663714817

Aaron Webber: "Full disclosure: I work at SEGA, but whether you enjoyed or disliked the game, it’s all cool either way by me.

What you did here was lie, live on Twitch. Steam may not call you out on it, but I hope the gaming community does. We deserve better."
https://twitter.com/RubyEclipse/status/930944139239100416

Courtesy link of Polygon: https://www.polygon.com/2017/11/15/16657156/sonic-forces-refund-steam-twitch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=31&v=5Stp5JaNOUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjzTKirf6j4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TDHYh2UGjs
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ZylpheRenuis Nov 15, 2017 @ 11:22pm 
Not sure if Valve/SEGA could file lawsuit against a Consumer but technically he DID lie about the reasoning why he is refunding the game.
Best case scenario. Valve could literally retract his funding as of terms of the service regarding the product itself. SEGA on another hand either could send their worries about the $40 retraction of a product thats been used and technically might be as well called (renting) it?
Its not piracy for one since he DID pay money for said product. But then again its not as if he completed it all 100% did he?
I am not savvy in law rules but somewhere within all the disclosures. The corporation might have an edge over this consumer.
:amyWhat:
Originally posted by SLEVEN:
Not sure if Valve/SEGA could file lawsuit against a Consumer but technically he DID lie about the reasoning why he is refunding the game.
Best case scenario. Valve could literally retract his funding as of terms of the service regarding the product itself. SEGA on another hand either could send their worries about the $40 retraction of a product thats been used and technically might be as well called (renting) it?
Its not piracy for one since he DID pay money for said product. But then again its not as if he completed it all 100% did he?
I am not savvy in law rules but somewhere within all the disclosures. The corporation might have an edge over this consumer.
:amyWhat:
Yeah, that's not right. It's a shame that WeeGee The God lied & abused to Valve and SEGA, even though he didn't mention bugs & glitches, but instead, he states that he bought the wrong game which clearly explains that he's a fraud and a liar!
It's entirely up to Valve whether or not to give out refunds. If Valve finds out about it, (and from the immediate sounds of things, this is a high profile case) they'll likely be quite reluctant to give out any more refunds.
Originally posted by Smugass Braixen-Chan:
It's entirely up to Valve whether or not to give out refunds. If Valve finds out about it, (and from the immediate sounds of things, this is a high profile case) they'll likely be quite reluctant to give out any more refunds.
I just don't understand how on earth WeeGee The God gets a refund, even though he has played Sonic Forces over 2 hours. Not to mention, it's also against 14-days of purchase/played under 2 hours Steam Refund Policy.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6695-QIKM-7966
Last edited by 🍃🪻🪷Sylvie🩵🍸🍵; Nov 15, 2017 @ 11:56pm
Pootis17 Nov 16, 2017 @ 12:03am 
Originally posted by Dan:
Originally posted by Smugass Braixen-Chan:
It's entirely up to Valve whether or not to give out refunds. If Valve finds out about it, (and from the immediate sounds of things, this is a high profile case) they'll likely be quite reluctant to give out any more refunds.
I just don't understand how on earth WeeGee The God gets a refund, even though he has played Sonic Forces over 2 hours. Not to mention, it's also against 14-days of purchase/played under 2 hours Steam Refund Policy.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6695-QIKM-7966
Steam Support are runned by idiots
Infinite Fury Nov 16, 2017 @ 2:46am 
He needs all his future refund requests denied.
SpyroGuy Nov 16, 2017 @ 6:10am 
It's not like I'm supporting the guy's actions, but....
Maybe if they'd sell their 3 hour game for 20 euros instead of 40, asshat moves such as this wouldn't have to be even considered in the first place.

I know that I appreciate quite a few things that this game is trying to go for, but the gameplay is certainly not one of them. So far judging from the videos I saw alone, the avatar's gameplay seems like the most fun of them all, so the question is: who's actually willing to pay 40 euros for a game that which only 1/3-rd of looks even remotely engaging gameplaywise?

Certainly not me, I tell ya, even though the game has a pretty healthy chance of running well on my machine with this price I'd rather wait for the cracked version of it.
I'm actually quite surprised that the game's otherwise by now horrendously bleeding Denuvo protection was not cracked almost instantly within the first 24 hours of release, howewer the game's SteamSpy stats are kinda speaking for themselves.

Maybe it's time to put Sonic into a decade long rest until Sonic Team either completely rebrands itself or gathers enough ideas to make a game that cannot be completed blindfolded in less than 3 hours and doesn't trying to cater to anyone.

We need utter, honest and complete freshness, no pandering, no excuses, no more constant recycling and certainly not anymore Lost World design templates.

(Still wondering who the fak's idea was to use a last-halfgen exclusive game's design template for a next-gen game occasionally running in 1600p/60fps. xD)
Last edited by SpyroGuy; Nov 16, 2017 @ 6:13am
Smash45 Nov 16, 2017 @ 6:36am 
Originally posted by Mystery117:
Originally posted by Dan:
I just don't understand how on earth WeeGee The God gets a refund, even though he has played Sonic Forces over 2 hours. Not to mention, it's also against 14-days of purchase/played under 2 hours Steam Refund Policy.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6695-QIKM-7966
Steam Support are runned by idiots
You can refund the game as long as it says "2 hours played" in your library on the game, of course that can also be more than 2 hours but it can still be refunded as long as 14 days haven't passed since the purchase. If you've put 3 hours or more then you can no longer refund it.
SpyroGuy Nov 16, 2017 @ 6:41am 
There's your answer people:
Buy something of more quality from these 40 euros that you're about to spend on this game.
Like Sonic Mania or Gens twice, or 5!!! copies of SA2 ("only" 4 with the DLC), 2 copies of "Sonic Transformed", 8 copies of the Sonic CD remaster or 5 copies of Sonic 4 Ep.2. :P

Or a non-Sonic game perhaps? :D
Last edited by SpyroGuy; Nov 16, 2017 @ 6:42am
Cross Nov 16, 2017 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by SpyroGuy:
There's your answer people:
Buy something of more quality from these 40 euros that you're about to spend on this game.
Like Sonic Mania or Gens twice, or 5!!! copies of SA2 ("only" 4 with the DLC), 2 copies of "Sonic Transformed", 8 copies of the Sonic CD remaster or 5 copies of Sonic 4 Ep.2. :P

Or a non-Sonic game perhaps? :D
That's not an answer. That's just your opinion in relation Sonic Forces.
Personally, I think this game was worth every penny.
mdesaleah Nov 16, 2017 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by Itsuki:
Originally posted by SpyroGuy:
There's your answer people:
Buy something of more quality from these 40 euros that you're about to spend on this game.
Like Sonic Mania or Gens twice, or 5!!! copies of SA2 ("only" 4 with the DLC), 2 copies of "Sonic Transformed", 8 copies of the Sonic CD remaster or 5 copies of Sonic 4 Ep.2. :P

Or a non-Sonic game perhaps? :D
That's not an answer. That's just your opinion in relation Sonic Forces.
Personally, I think this game was worth every penny.
JustThatOneGuy13 Nov 16, 2017 @ 9:13am 
Refunding the game claiming that you bought the wrong game bypass the Hour limit. Which is dumb since you would notice that it's the wrong game in about 30 Minutes.
SpyroGuy Nov 16, 2017 @ 9:59am 
Originally posted by Itsuki:
That's not an answer. That's just your opinion in relation Sonic Forces.
Personally, I think this game was worth every penny.

You do realize that I was referring to the guy's answer to said question before the one you've quoted as "the answer", not my own, right?

Guess you didn't. :D
CC BC Nov 18, 2017 @ 3:00pm 
Just so you all wanna know what happened - https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=QPChLbxSle8

No one goes to Polygon to know the truth fellas. Time ya'll realise that.
Sifter Nov 18, 2017 @ 4:48pm 
Well. That does that.
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