Campaign Mission "Escape"

[sgtoxman]

Anyone able to beat this mission using MODTek? Also, if you fail a campaign mission, will it be available to you later? Or do you lose the campaign.

[revenantsknight]

Not sure what Modtek has to do with the mission. Can you elaborate?

In vanilla anyway, Escape should be reliably beatable. It does have a higher failure rate then most because you're given a fixed hand, though I've never lost the actual mission over multiple playthroughs. IIRC failing the mission will force a reload or, in the case of Ironman, end the campaign run.

[wesnef]

Yeah, ModTek is just a mod loader. It doesn't do anything itself.

[graystripe]

storyline missions aren't affected by mods like

1) modtek

and since OP mentioned the storyline mission "escape" which is defeating every single enemy mechs which comes in waves

and that you have 4 star league mechs

which are

a) Atlas AS7-D-HT

b) Highlander HGN-732B

c) Black Knight BL-6B-KNT

d) Griffin GRF-4N

the first wave of enemy mechs are light mechs, use melee assault on them by using atlas, highlander and black knight and griffin.

do not trigger the 2nd wave of enemy mechs while fighting the light mechs or else you will be facing front and rear assaults.

the 3 pilots piloting black knight, highlander and atlas have bulwark.

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best strategy is to let enemy mechs come to you instead of you going to them

i) Generally try to tank and spank, given all the pilots except Reynard has Bulwark, you want to take advantage of this as much as possible. Assault Mechs has terrible evasions anyway even after long distance sprinting so it is best to just stand your ground and take advantage of the Bulwark ability, except for the Griffin which you probably want to keep far back. Let enemies come to you rather than going charging into enemy fire.

ii) Note that in addition to Multi-Target, Breaching Shot, and Sensor Lock, Kamea has a hidden Bulwark ability, making her a highly versatile asset.

from here

https://battletech.fandom.com/wiki/Escape

[graystripe]

i'm not surprised if OP got mods that affects every single pilot and every single skill in the game.

[sgtoxman]

Modtek changed the whole enemy make up on both sides. I didn't have a Highlander or Atlas, which I think is what you have in Vanilla with Griffin and can't remember what else, instead I had a Royal Black Knight, Royal Sorcerer, an Avatar, and can't remember what else. The enemy had Crazy named mechs too with heavy Vehicles....It's pretty much impossible to kill the initial 4 mechs up in the corner with you especially when they get the jump on you, then make your way down to the escape ♥♥♥♥ fighting through like 3 mechs and 3 vehicles, and THEN when escape vehicle explodes, you have to make your way to the other side for evac but awaiting you there are 4 more mechs of heavy to assault tonnage! It's impossible!

[Jamie Wolf]

Originally posted by sgtoxman:

Modtek changed the whole enemy make up on both sides. I didn't have a Highlander or Atlas, which I think is what you have in Vanilla with Griffin and can't remember what else, instead I had a Royal Black Knight, Royal Sorcerer, an Avatar, and can't remember what else. The enemy had Crazy named mechs too with heavy Vehicles....It's pretty much impossible to kill the initial 4 mechs up in the corner with you especially when they get the jump on you, then make your way down to the escape ♥♥♥♥ fighting through like 3 mechs and 3 vehicles, and THEN when escape vehicle explodes, you have to make your way to the other side for evac but awaiting you there are 4 more mechs of heavy to assault tonnage! It's impossible!

No....

Modtek didn't change any of this that's not how modtek works.

As others have said here, modtek is a mod loader. It only deals with:
- updating the game manifest for new items
- updating/merging/replacing existing items
- loading and initializing DLL mods.
- providing utilities for mods like an injection framework and logging utilities.

On its own, modtek will only cause 3
user noticable effects:
- adding a loading bar/screen to the game startup.
- adding some text to title screen of the game to let you know what version of modtek is in use
- adding some numbers to the loading screens between save loading and mission loads.

What you actually mean to say is:

One of the mods you installed that requires modtek to load made changes that you don't like and are finding it difficult to complete this mission.

But without telling us what mod(s) you've installed we can't provide any advice

[HurtfulPlayer97]

I love when people play a Mod whose whole stated purpose is to make the game harder then complain the game is harder.

[sgtoxman]

Hey I did not complain, I just wondered if someone was able to complete it with whatever Mod I have....anyway, was just asking.

[Sentient_Toaster]

Originally posted by sgtoxman:

Hey I did not complain, I just wondered if someone was able to complete it with whatever Mod I have....anyway, was just asking.

You have yet to specify which mod you have. Don't make people guess.

That said, with this mission, the objective is not to kill all the opposition. You need to ensure that Kamea reaches the evacuation zone, and that everybody else either reaches it or ejects.

[HurtfulPlayer97]

Originally posted by sgtoxman:

Hey I did not complain, I just wondered if someone was able to complete it with whatever Mod I have....anyway, was just asking.

Originally posted by sgtoxman:

Modtek changed the whole enemy make up on both sides. I didn't have a Highlander or Atlas, which I think is what you have in Vanilla with Griffin and can't remember what else, instead I had a Royal Black Knight, Royal Sorcerer, an Avatar, and can't remember what else. The enemy had Crazy named mechs too with heavy Vehicles....It's pretty much impossible to kill the initial 4 mechs up in the corner with you especially when they get the jump on you, then make your way down to the escape ♥♥♥♥ fighting through like 3 mechs and 3 vehicles, and THEN when escape vehicle explodes, you have to make your way to the other side for evac but awaiting you there are 4 more mechs of heavy to assault tonnage! It's impossible!

Your initial post was not, but this sure looks like a complaint to me...

[graystripe]

as long as OP refuses to provide the list of mods he installed for Battletech game here

no one can help him at all.

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asking for help, yet refuses to provide the required information that was being asked by "Jamie Wolf".

i fully 100000000% agree "Jamie Wolf" post.

[graystripe]

at here

https://github.com/BattletechModders/ModTek

it is written that

1) ModTek is a mod-loader for HBS's BattleTech PC game. It allows modders to create self-contained mods that do not over-write game files. ModTek is run at game startup and dynamically loads mods that conform to the mod.json format. Mod dependencies are resolved and load order enforced without needing to edit the VersionManifest.csv.

Since BattleTech 1.7, HBS introduced their own mod-loader, which is based on an older ModTek version. It is missing many features of newer ModTek versions, including DLC support.

from here

https://github.com/BattletechModders/ModTek/releases

is the latest modtek version for this game

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OP install modtek, yet he never bother to read thoroughly what is modtek for.

so i'm posting the information about it which includes links to it.

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if even after he reads what is modtek for and yet still insists that modtek is the cause of it

then the only answer that can be given is this

a) remove modtek completely and play the battletech campaign mode from scratch

any save games that he have which requires modtek can't be played anymore.

[sgtoxman]

Ok, y'all are right, I was confused on what Modtek was, and I guess reflecting back I did complain a bit. Anyway, here are the mods I have installed using Modtek. If anyone has updated or better ones to make the game enjoyable, please link it for me? I am having a blast though....I am able to drop 3 lances (not during Campaign missions though), different mechs, Clan equipment and wpns, Etc.

Heavy Metal Flashpoint Module
Mechaffinity
Mission Control
Performancefixes
Sizematters
Urban Warfare Flashpoints
Cab-Tanks
Clevergirl
Customlocalsettings
CustomPilotDecorator
CustomVoices
FlashpointDLC New Flashpoints
Cab-Clan-Modern
Cab-Civil-War
Cab-Is-ClanInvasion
Cab-Is-Customs
Cab-Is-Starleague
Cab-Misc
BTA-Cab-CU Soundtrack Override
BT Advanced Core
BT Advanced Quad Mechs
BTA Debug
CAB-3025
CAB-CU
Cab-Clan-Goldencentury

Sorry for the confusion all.

[rasilio]

Ok I'm going to ignore your mods and do what everyone else said can't be done and help you beat the mission without knowing or caring about your mods.

It's called Metagaming.

You've played the mission and lost so you know not only roughly what forces you will face but where and when they will appear on the map. You also know that getting to the evac zone is not actually the goal because that dropship gets blown up.

So to beat the mission you fight the first two waves up against the doors to the Star League Base. Once they are defeated you send your fastest mech towards the "rescue point" while you send your slower heavies in the other direction towards the secondary pickup zone. Make sure you do not trigger the dropship getting blown up sequence until AFTER your heavies are near that point and behind where the final wave will appear. If engaging those enemies goes badly just have Kamea step into the evac zone. Boom, mission defeated.

Is it cheap? Sure, but you get past the mission and a nice shiny Atlas for your trouble

[Jamie Wolf]

Originally posted by sgtoxman:

Ok, y'all are right, I was confused on what Modtek was, and I guess reflecting back I did complain a bit. Anyway, here are the mods I have installed using Modtek. If anyone has updated or better ones to make the game enjoyable, please link it for me? I am having a blast though....I am able to drop 3 lances (not during Campaign missions though), different mechs, Clan equipment and wpns, Etc.

Heavy Metal Flashpoint Module
Mechaffinity
Mission Control
Performancefixes
Sizematters
Urban Warfare Flashpoints
Cab-Tanks
Clevergirl
Customlocalsettings
CustomPilotDecorator
CustomVoices
FlashpointDLC New Flashpoints
Cab-Clan-Modern
Cab-Civil-War
Cab-Is-ClanInvasion
Cab-Is-Customs
Cab-Is-Starleague
Cab-Misc
BTA-Cab-CU Soundtrack Override
BT Advanced Core
BT Advanced Quad Mechs
BTA Debug
CAB-3025
CAB-CU
Cab-Clan-Goldencentury

Sorry for the confusion all.

Is this the full list?

This looks like a small part of BTAU. which would either imply your using BTAU (or BTA-Light) or you've only taken parts of BTA, in which case I'm amazed the game is even booting for you