How would you build a lance of CAT's?

[arntbv]

Make me a lance of 4 different catapult builds using all 3 chassis variants C1, C4 and K2. Top tier tech unlimited. I just love those CAT's 😁.

[Scathe]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2396385004

above - catapult C4 LRM boat. I'd use two of these.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2396385069

above - catapult C4 LRM boat with a loadout that I think fits in a C1 variant. one of these.

I don't have a picture for a K2 variant. the K2 variant I'd use would be 4 MPL++, 1 AC/2++, 4JJ, 5DHS, 15 ton armor, 1 Rangefinder+++, 1 Gyro (+3HD)

oh, I didn't read the question well enough. I guess I can go back and build a C4 SRM boat so that the lance would be 1 C4 SRM, 1 C4 LRM, 1 C1 LRM, 1 K2 MPL.

[Scathe]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2396398483

there goes a C4 SRM boat, to mark the 4th different build. note that I built these CATs in base game with no DLC.

[talemore]

1 laser or ppc in the core and whatever fits the right arm. Left arm and torso empty and is the shield side.

[wesnef]

One non-LRM Cat I've used before is 2xLLas & SRMs (probably 2xSRM6?), no jets. But that's because I rarely use jets at all above Medium. /shrug


(Scathe - why bother with the DHS in those two LRM boats? The heat efficiency seems plenty high, you could use regulars, or drop them to increase the armor. Or do you generally build to max out the heat efficiency bar? Obviously, I don't. ;)
edit: and, of course, I don't have an unlimited supply of DHS, so I tend to only put them in the mechs that *really* need it.)

[Scathe]

Originally posted by wesnef:

One non-LRM Cat I've used before is 2xLLas & SRMs (probably 2xSRM6?), no jets. But that's because I rarely use jets at all above Medium. /shrug


(Scathe - why bother with the DHS in those two LRM boats? The heat efficiency seems plenty high, you could use regulars, or drop them to increase the armor. Or do you generally build to max out the heat efficiency bar? Obviously, I don't. ;)
edit: and, of course, I don't have an unlimited supply of DHS, so I tend to only put them in the mechs that *really* need it.)

the C1 variant cannot go higher in LRM's than LRM40. there is an overload of armor and heat sinking at LRM40. that is fine. I guess if I had wanted to change up the C4 LRM boat I could have gone up to LRM45. then it would put heat sinking in a territory you're more comfortable with, with 1 DHS instead of 2. that would put armor a bit low for my liking though. since I'm wanting 1 extra ton of armor over an LRM45 version, I guess the only other thing I could have gone with is a TTS+++ instead of 1 DHS. I feel it is being nitpicky thing to consider. the opening post clearly stated "top tier tech unlimited" hence all heat sinking will be DHS if they fit. I don't see any reason for the LRM boats to go higher in armor than they already are due to both the K2 and C4 SRM having full jump jets and near max armor, those close range builds are the "tanks" of the lance I built.

[wesnef]

Ah, ok. :)

[OfficerTerror]

If 'single' moms shopping online during christmas was a steam user XD

[DasaKamov]

Originally posted by OfficerTerror:

If 'single' moms shopping online during christmas was a steam user XD

Er, what?

[arntbv]

Here is my take on a cat lance😁

Tomcat - K2 - 2xUAC2++, 4xERML++, 1 heat excanger++ and 6xDHS, rangefinder+++, defence gyro, 1200 armor. Medium-long range sniper.

Hellcat - C1 - 2xInferno++, 2xflamer+++, 3xMPL++, 4xJJ, 5xDHS, cockpit mod, defence gyro, 1280 armor. Brawler.

♥♥♥♥♥cat - C4 - 2xLRM15+++, 2xLRM5++2dmg, 1xERML++, 2xDHS, comm mod+++, defence gyro, 1120 armor. Long range support.

Wildcat - K2 - 1xUAC10++, 1xSnubPPC++,2ML++dmg. 5xDHS. Cockpit mod and defence gyro. 1120 armor. Brawler.

[Wat]

CPLT-C4 (Fire Support/Extreme Range, Max Dmg 240)
2xLRM15++ +2 DMG
2xLRM5++ +2 DMG
4xLRM AMMO
1xTTS+++ +3 Acc. (Missile)
RANGEFINDER+++ +120m View Dist.
GYRO++ +3 Hit Defence
1280 ARMOR

CPLT-C4 (Brawler/Standard Range, Max Dmg 323)
4xSRM6++ +4 Dmg +2 Stb Dmg
3xSRM AMMO
1xM LASER++ +10 Dmg
4xJUMP JET (H)
2xHEAT SINK (D)
1xTTS+++ +3 Acc. (Missile)
COCKPIT MOD++ +3 Injury Resist
GYRO++ +3 Hit Defence
1280 ARMOR

CPLT-K2 (Brawler/Standard Range, Max Dmg 285)
2xSNUB PPC++ +10 Dmg
1xM LASER++ +10 Dmg
4xJUMP JET (H)
5xHEAT SINK (D)
1xTTS+++ +3 Acc. (Energy)
COCKPIT MOD++ +3 Injury Resist
GYRO++ +3 Hit Defence
1280 ARMOR

CPLT-C1 (Brawler/Standard Range, Max Dmg 249)
2xSRM6++ +4 Dmg +2 Stb Dmg
3xM LASER++ +10 Dmg
2xSRM AMMO
4xJUMP JET (H)
2xHEAT SINK (D)
1xX-1 ECM EQUIPMENT
COCKPIT MOD++ +3 Injury Resist
GYRO++ +3 Hit Defence
1280 ARMOR

[Lord-Knight Fandragon]

Only way I really build my Catapults is like 2 LL 2 LRM15s.

[pete]

Originally posted by Lord-Knight Fandragon:

Only way I really build my Catapults is like 2 LL 2 LRM15s.

Some sanity at last - no accused jump jets!!!

[arntbv]

Originally posted by Lord-Knight Fandragon:

Only way I really build my Catapults is like 2 LL 2 LRM15s.

For a C1 that is a decent build for its hardpoints, since you can then out the LL in the side torsos. But there are 2 other variants with hardpoints that opens for a myriad of builds and roles.
F. Exs if you wanna do 2 LL on a C4 they full up the center torso with no room for a gyro. So they better go with 3-4 missile weapons and max one 1-slot laser weapon.

[Lord-Knight Fandragon]

Originally posted by arntbv:

Originally posted by Lord-Knight Fandragon:

Only way I really build my Catapults is like 2 LL 2 LRM15s.

For a C1 that is a decent build for its hardpoints, since you can then out the LL in the side torsos. But there are 2 other variants with hardpoints that opens for a myriad of builds and roles.
F. Exs if you wanna do 2 LL on a C4 they full up the center torso with no room for a gyro. So they better go with 3-4 missile weapons and max one 1-slot laser weapon.

I also think in MW4, which had hardpoint setups similar to this game, I sometimes ran 4x SRM6 and 1 LL.

Ofc, I havent used a Cat in this game, since salvage its a pita. Only Catapult I got was Victorias...and used it like once maybe....

["The" SeanMacLeod]

Simple brawler loadout for CPLT-C4 (if you can find them):
4 Valiant SRM-6
4 tons SRM ammo
4 jump jets
7 extra heat sinks
2 extra tons of armor
+3 injury resist cockpit mod (optional)
+3 hit defense gyro (optional, but helps a lot)
Heat efficiency is 48 AS plus up to 8 jumping versus 51 sinking with 288 max damage; can fire 16 times plus a final salvo of 16 missiles. This is one bad kitty!
Ofc, trading the HS for doubles and replacing three of them with a +3 missile TTS makes it that much more effective....