Where are the Urban Mechs?

[wwiiogre]

Seriously, one of the most common mechs in the entire IP and not a single one to be seen in the Periphery near Liao space where they are made.

I am deeply saddened by this. If anybody has Urbies in the entire universe its gonna be the forgotten back water planets of the Periphery. Especially near Liao space. As when the IS great houses abandoned these worlds they would have left the militia urbies behind since pretty much everything is more important than a militia Urban mech.

I was so looking forward to not only having to face these heavily armed nasty mechs. But also getting to field them in the early game.

Please HBS fix this.

Chris

[Sir Crashalot]

I saw one for sale in a store (3 parts) on Sidestrafes stream but so far that is the only sign.

[Chef Godzilla]

Well it's like this. They actually ARE in the game but by the time they get to the battlefield the game is already over.

[wwiiogre]

I am going to have to mod them in. Get rid of locust in starting lance and put in an Urban mech. Then modify AI mechs to include at least one Urban mech anytime two locusts are in a lance. Just saying. They are tough to deal with early and deliver some serious hurt with that AC 10.

Chris

[NewGame+]

im new to battlerech so i dont realy know are Urban Mechs good? or are they just meam levels of bad?

[wwiiogre]

Start with 4 urban mech lance as your starting lance. Your older brother stole the family Black Jack, but we have this left over run down Urban mech for you. :)

Now that would be IRON URBAN MECH mode.

Chris

[bloodyjack_69]

musta been good in TT or MWO for all the love they get on furoms. only place i really remember them from was MC2 where they were not even worth salavging.

[wwiiogre]

Urban mechs are a light mech, but have heavy firepower, decent armor, but poor movement. They can jump but are generally slow. They are a militia and defense mech designed to defend in cities.

When used well they can be devastating for their weight class. When used poorly they are merely trash can shaped speed bumps on the way to victory.

Either way they should be in the game. Especially in missions when the AI is defending fixed locations with turrets and bases. That is their specialty role and for them not to be doing that is just sad.

Chris

[Ariko]

I am confused by some of the posts here considering urbanmechs have been confirmed in the game for quite a while.

[bloodyjack_69]

they are, just appear tobe very rare if you watch the streams

[wwiiogre]

While watching streams of this game. Even deep into the game, no urban mechs have been found being used by the enemy. Which is quite weird since they are one of the most commonly used light mechs in the universe.

They were used primarily as defensive mechs. Meaning every single planet that had something to defend probably received Urban Mechs. Other light mechs are considered to useful to be stuck on defense missions and were given to regular line units instead of purely defensive Militia or National or Planetary Guard units.

In terms, Front line units get the M1 Abrams, guard units get M60. Or frontline units get a T72, militia units get a T55 or older T34.

The Urban mech would be the goto light mech in the Periphery for planetary defense. It should be the single most seen mech if you are attacking anything in the Periphery. At least 33% of all light mechs not being used as offensive mechs should be Urban mechs. Then 1 in 10 of the urban mechs should be the nasty AC 20 variant.

We have seen zero Urban mechs. Statistically not possible based on the canon and lore of the Inner Sphere and periphery for this timeline.

Easily fixed once the game comes out and the modders get ahold of this.

Chris

[Revener]

All bow before of the mighty Urbanmech!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inLK05VFIdY

[Chef Godzilla]

Jokes aside, by now streamers really should have come across them. They seem to have been deliberately left out for some reason. Maybe the AI is just SOOO bad with them they were left out on purpose?

[wwiiogre]

In skirmish the AI played them smart and they were dangerous because a head shot would mean you die. So perhaps the Devs thought they were to powerful that early. Single AC 10 plus breeching shot is nasty.

In skirmish the AI would leave the Urban Mechs in the back and they would snipe and could kill light mechs rather easily.

Still would like to see them in, rather than just absent completely.

Chris

[wendigo211]

Originally posted by mccarthy00:

im new to battlerech so i dont realy know are Urban Mechs good? or are they just meam levels of bad?

More the latter than the former. They aren't useless, but the average light mech in TL1 probably has a 6 walking speed and 9 running speed, the faster ones are 7/11 or 8/12. The Urbanmech has a speed of 2/3. For comparison an Atlas has a 3 walking speed and a 5 running speed. In return for effectively being a turret, the Urbanmech fields an AC10, which is a decent weapon. Although, in Tabletop if it swapped the AC10 for a PPC, it would free up enough weight to move up to 5/8 engine without losing any damage and actually gaining some range in addition to the faster movement.

If you can get one in a position where it can't be flanked and it has clear sight lines it can be dangerous. It's other advantage is that it has a low BV and C-bill cost, so if you're playing another player in PvP and you're using C-bills or BV to balance an encounter, you can field a lot of them. Although, personally, I'd rather have a swarm of Locusts. People have killed new players with them, but realistically, because of their horrendous speed, in any match against equally skilled players, they're going to be a liability.

[Gunman]

Probably start seeing them when you the to an Urban enviroment. they work best in their native habitat in sizable formations