Quantity of Unique Mechs

[Valorin]

I am currently reading the Battletech universe books and flipping over to Sarna.net and I have come to realize that the game really doesn't have the vast quantity of 3025 mechs that the Battletech universe should have at this time.
I understand time/money constraints and the Harmony Gold fiasco. I believe I heard Kiva/Mitch say that they want to make the game moddable. Are you lovely and savvy modders planning to add the missing mechs? Do you think "in success" we could get expansions, Battletech 2+, or DLCs to include these missing mechs?

[Lair360]

You just have to wait and see how well this game sells. This game is not even out yet! :(

[uMakeMeHot]

HBS has already mentioned mechs they want to add to the game post-launch if things go well enough to support more features. In success HBS commented they might some day model their own mechs instead of relying on PGI's stable to grow too.

There are plenty of mechs and variants for this first game. More than previous RTS/TBS Battletech/MechWarrior games had when they first launched.

And the game is very moddable. Modders were already adding new mechs during the beta. Primarily through loadouts and skins. Adding new 3D models with unique animations would be a lot more work and take a lot more time.

Either way we'll see more mechs added to the game. Officially would be the best way because it would mean the game is doing well enough for HBS to continue developing content.

While some mechs might be added as part of free game updated it's probable in success more mechs will be added as part of larger paid campaign expansions.

I hope to not see them added MWO style as mech packs unless they're really affordable and HBS said they won't do microtransations so there's that.

[AbsynthMinded]

Unique as in only get one in pristine condition without having to reassemble them from parts?

Not many

[uMakeMeHot]

Originally posted by AbsynthMinded:

Unique as in only get one in pristine condition without having to reassemble them from parts?

Not many

While for this game a pristine mech would be unique - that isn't what the OP meant by unique.

[uMakeMeHot]

The currently known list of mechs and variants in the release game is:

LIGHT
Locust - LCT-1M, -1S, -1V***
Commando - COM-1B, -2D***
Spider - SDR-5V
Firestarter - FS9-H
Jenner - JR7-D
Panther - PNT-9R
Urbanmech - UM-R60

MEDIUM
Cicada - CDA-2A***, -3C
Blackjack - BJ-1 (plus something called a "BJ-1 Starter." Probably a dilapidated version.)
Vindicator - VND-1R
Centurion - CN9-A***, -AL
Enforcer - ENF-4R
Hunchback - HBK-4G***, -4P
Trebuchet - TBT-5N
Griffin - GRF-1N***, -1S
Kintaro - KTO-18
Shadowhawk - SHD-2D, -2H***
Wolverine - WVR-6K, -6R***

HEAVY
Dragon - DRG-1N
Quickdraw - QKD-4G, -5A
Catapult - CPLT-C1***, -K2
JagerMech - JM6-A, -S***
Thunderbolt - TDR-5S***, -5SE, -5SS
Grasshopper - GHR-5H
Orion - ON1-K***, -V
Cataphract - CTF-1X
Black Knight - BL-7-KNT

ASSAULT
Awesome - AWS-8Q***, -8T
Victor - VTR-9B***, -9S
Zeus - ZEU-6S
BattleMaster - BLR-1G
Stalker - STK-3F
Highlander - HGN-733***, -733P
Banshee - BNC-3E***, -3M
King Crab - KGC-0000
Atlas - AS7-D

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/all-variants-confirmed.1086973/page-3#post-24061974

Thirtysix unique mechs plus variants is a damn good start for the first Battletech video game in ages.

[wendigo211]

The new mechs we get will depend on how the HG-all things Battletech lawsuit goes as well the models that PGI does for MWO. The mechs with a 3025 variant that aren't in this game and aren't unseen are:
LIGHT

• Mercury
• Thorn
• Mongoose
• Hermes
• Hussar
• Javelin

MEDIUM

• Assassin
• Clint
• Hermes II
• Sentinel
• Vulcan
• Whitworth
• Hachetman
• Wyvern
• Crab
• Dervish

HEAVY

• Champion
• Lancelot
• Bombardier
• Exterminator
• Guillotine
• Flashman

ASSAULT

• Charger
• Thug
• Crockett
• Cyclops

So that's 26 more mechs that could be added officially and would fit with the 3025 timeline. More could be added: if they move further down the timeline, if they give us full lostech 2750 mechs or if the lawsuit gets resolved in Battletech's favor.

I'm sure modders will probably give use all these mechs and more before HBS gets around to it.

[Clappie]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_33WnIpLEADui_Rh6dqSqtOKgNWRveWQ/view Update on Harmony Gold situation. The case was thrown out with prejudice. Good news!

[wendigo211]

While that's the case against HBS, unless the same happens with PGI and CGL, it doesn't affect the future of the unseen.

[nilus]

36 seems like a good amount to me, but I’m old. I enjoyed the original Battletech game(The Crescent Hawk Inception) and if I recall that game had a total of 5 different mechs in it.

[Hexenhammer]

Originally posted by nilus:

36 seems like a good amount to me, but I’m old. I enjoyed the original Battletech game(The Crescent Hawk Inception) and if I recall that game had a total of 5 different mechs in it.

I'd love to see someone recreate Cresecent Hawk's Inception in MechWarrior 5.

[Sam Look]

Originally posted by wendigo211:

While that's the case against HBS, unless the same happens with PGI and CGL, it doesn't affect the future of the unseen.

On top of that it was thrown out due to questions about original ownership at the Japanese end, which might have unseen (hur hur) consequences as well.

[Chaon]

The other deciding factor is what mechs has PGI modelled and made available that fit into the 3025 time frame?

If PGI haven't made a model there is very little chance of HBS being able to put that mech in game.

And since the HG lawsuit seems to be finished for HBS, we may see some good news about some of the missing emchs.

[AbsynthMinded]

Originally posted by uMakeMeHot:

Originally posted by AbsynthMinded:

Unique as in only get one in pristine condition without having to reassemble them from parts?

Not many

While for this game a pristine mech would be unique - that isn't what the OP meant by unique.

I know. He could have too by virtue of a search feature or google.

[Valorin]

Yeah, I am referring to the variety of mechs available to pilot. Wendigo211 states we could potentially have 26 more mechs that fit the current timeline (and lawsuit mechs now, potential horray!). So if HBS (with help from PG artists) or Modders release these extra 26+ mechs, variety will be the spice of my life. heh

[Chaon]

PGI is still fighting the lawsuit. If they give the disputed mech models to HBS to put in the game, that might be treading on thin ice where the lawsuit is concerned.

OI don't expect anything about new models for the game until PGI have the lawsuit dismissed with prejudice. Hopefully that will be soon.