M1 Macs

[wrballad]

Figured I would put in a heads up and potentially save folks some frustration.

The Allied AI is busted on M1 macs. Allies will sit there for 5-10 minutes before they act, and in some cases they will never take an action. This makes the campaign game unplayable on new Macs.

HBS is aware of the bug but it looks like they have no plans on fixing it due to the age of the game.

[Werecat101]

so lets understand this the game was made and most of the devs were already moved to new projects before your CPU was even released for sale.

the Macs prior to your M! CPU all had Intel chips so x86 compatibility is the issue. as with most o/s changes the compatibility module in your O/s will improve.

[Jamie Wolf]

I would say HBS shouldn't worry about this. They aren't releasing an native m1 version as far as I'm aware and the issue is clearly with apples x86 emulation, so apple should be the ones to fix their problem

[wrballad]

Originally posted by steve:

so lets understand this the game was made and most of the devs were already moved to new projects before your CPU was even released for sale.

the Macs prior to your M! CPU all had Intel chips so x86 compatibility is the issue. as with most o/s changes the compatibility module in your O/s will improve.

My goal here was not get HBS to fix the bug. Just to warn folks away from buying the game if they have a newer mac.

[Delta_Assault]

The Mackie was the very first BattleMech, so it makes sense it wouldn't work well.

[Werecat101]

Originally posted by wrballad:

Originally posted by steve:

so lets understand this the game was made and most of the devs were already moved to new projects before your CPU was even released for sale.

the Macs prior to your M! CPU all had Intel chips so x86 compatibility is the issue. as with most o/s changes the compatibility module in your O/s will improve.

My goal here was not get HBS to fix the bug. Just to warn folks away from buying the game if they have a newer mac.

so why word the post the way you did ?, what you have said implies you think its HBS at fault which is rubbish its Apple that need to fix their emulation which you were told.

but you made several threads talking about it being broken and leaning towards HBS should fix this
link to your other thread below
https://steamcommunity.com/app/637090/discussions/2/3155312274940964999/

now had you done this correctly by saying

This game does not function fully on a Mac with an M1 chip the x86 emulations causes ( list all the problems in a clear manner here) you would have gained a lot of people saying thank you and would have been doing what you claim to be doing and might even have gotten the thread pinned.

[moheitmanek]

Doesn't run one M1. Total BS.

[Werecat101]

Originally posted by moheitmanek:

Doesn't run one M1. Total BS.

so you don't read the why you just read the first line, people that buy a M1 laptop for playing games should do more research before they buy it. Macs have never and will never be great game playing machines.

Originally posted by steve:

the Macs prior to your M! CPU all had Intel chips so x86 compatibility is the issue. as with most o/s changes the compatibility module in your O/s will improve.

read the quote from my first post in this thread, I clearly say it will improve.

since may that situation has improved.which is good news for Mac M1 users we know the AI is still troubled at times but the emulation is improving

[Jamie Wolf]

Originally posted by moheitmanek:

Doesn't run one M1. Total BS.

Why is this BS? The game was completely finished development before apple released the M1. That they choose to switch cpu architectures, isn't HBS fault.

Is the line of logic here that any game that ran on an x86 Mac that now has issues on an M1 is BS? Not sure how you can expect companies to release updates for finished products because another company came along and broke things. If you want to be mad at anyone it should be apple for their subpar x86 emulation and selling people on the false promise of old apps still working on the M1.

[KMiSSioN]

Originally posted by Jamie Wolf:

Originally posted by moheitmanek:

Doesn't run one M1. Total BS.

Why is this BS? The game was completely finished development before apple released the M1. That they choose to switch cpu architectures, isn't HBS fault.

Is the line of logic here that any game that ran on an x86 Mac that now has issues on an M1 is BS? Not sure how you can expect companies to release updates for finished products because another company came along and broke things. If you want to be mad at anyone it should be apple for their subpar x86 emulation and selling people on the false promise of old apps still working on the M1.

It is useless to explain anything to such dumb, you just wasting time. He will not read your answer, even if will - does not understand.

[Boltergeist]

Why would Intel or AMD swap to the arm architecture?

[Werecat101]

what advantage would paying to use Arm architecture achieve, the next generation of AMD chips is nearly ready, Intel are using their new chip designs trying to get the market back. Apple went for the low power M1 chips to make it even easier to make super light & thin laptops.

[Jamie Wolf]

Intel and AMD would never switch to arm. If they are going to switch to a fundamental new architecture, it will either be something of their own design or RISC V, which I would see as better investment than arm

[Werecat101]

Apart from everything else switching to a radically new architecture rather than X86 designs, alienates most of the big software company's and Microsoft, and both AMD and Intel have too much to lose unless it was a deal done by all of them. and throwing away all of the previous development to go do totally new releasing a new O/S and hardware would be a huge undertaking.

[Valen]

Having a Mac because it is required for some work related issue understandable. Having a Mac for PC gaming is absurd.

[desrtfox071]

Originally posted by Valen:

Having a Mac because it is required for some work related issue understandable. Having a Mac for PC gaming is absurd.

Demanding a game that has completed development be ported to an entirely new architecture because the manufacturer of that device has failed (so far) to do it properly is also a non starter.

OP. Macs have always been niche for gaming. That means you get less and wait longer.

M1, or ARM, is much more so. Also, expect that the emulation will be slow, so that M1 Mac is going to run any x86 software at poor performance markers even when the emulation is corrected.