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[rubyismycat]

Hi guys i dont understand case i assume it protects your ammo but how effective is it and is it worth using and does it need to be placed next to your ammo?

[MarkDey]

Sounds like a mod? The base Battletech game treats every ammo bin as if it has the tabletop CASE system already.

[Bovril Brigadier]

Sounds like a mod so the following might not be relevant.
Idea of CASE is that it stops ammo explosions from reaching other parts of the Mech and more importantly, killing the pilot.

[TyborPL]

Originally posted by rubyismycat:

Hi guys i dont understand case i assume it protects your ammo but how effective is it and is it worth using and does it need to be placed next to your ammo?

Yes:)

[rubyismycat]

Thanks guys thats very helpfull indeed

[ulzgoroth]

Note: CASE does not protect your ammo at all - it only protects your mech against your ammo.

[maerchen]

CASE is placeable in torsos only,

[desrtfox071]

Just to be entirely clear.

CASE doesn't protect the torso that it is mounted in either. The only thing CASE does is prevent ammo explosion excess damage from being transferred to the center torso. That is it.

Ammo explosions will still damage the torso the ammo is in, but will not transfer excess damage inward as most other excess damage is. Because CASE can only be put in the torsos, this means you are only protecting the center torso by adding CASE.

So, an ammo explosion in the torso will do damage as normal, but not transfer to the CT. An ammo explosion in an arm, will transfer to the attached torso (if there is excessive damage), and do damage to that torso, but any excess damage beyond that will not transfer to the CT.

(Also, all of this is based on us talking about Inner Sphere CASE, not Clan CASE or CASE II)

[ulzgoroth]

Either kind of advanced CASE, (seen only in some mods) actually does significantly reduce the damage an ammo explosion causes and thus can save the section it's in.

[wesnef]

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

Just to be entirely clear.

CASE doesn't protect the torso that it is mounted in either. The only thing CASE does is prevent ammo explosion excess damage from being transferred to the center torso. That is it.

Ammo explosions will still damage the torso the ammo is in, but will not transfer excess damage inward as most other excess damage is.

Does digital BT do this? I've been blowing up the ammo in side torsos for a long time, and I don't recall it ever transferring to the CT. Or maybe I just didn't notice and the ammo was already partially used. But I'm pretty sure I've pre-emptively disarmed Hunchback AC20's by blowing out the ammo before they could fire. /hmm

[desrtfox071]

Originally posted by wesnef:

Originally posted by desrtfox071:

Just to be entirely clear.

CASE doesn't protect the torso that it is mounted in either. The only thing CASE does is prevent ammo explosion excess damage from being transferred to the center torso. That is it.

Ammo explosions will still damage the torso the ammo is in, but will not transfer excess damage inward as most other excess damage is.

Does digital BT do this? I've been blowing up the ammo in side torsos for a long time, and I don't recall it ever transferring to the CT. Or maybe I just didn't notice and the ammo was already partially used. But I'm pretty sure I've pre-emptively disarmed Hunchback AC20's by blowing out the ammo before they could fire. /hmm

Stock BT, to my knowledge, treats the torsos as though they have CASE. Meaning ammo explosion excess damage does not transfer to the CT. I could be wrong on this because I play BTA 3062 pretty exclusively, and it's been a long time since I played vanilla.

[wesnef]

Yeah, I've got BEX installed so I can't test it. But I'm pretty sure the vanilla game just blows up the location it's in. The only change BEX makes is for CASE to prevent the pilot injury.

edit: but since the OP talks about choosing to install CASE, I'll assume he's either playing RT or BTA.

[desrtfox071]

Originally posted by wesnef:

Yeah, I've got BEX installed so I can't test it. But I'm pretty sure the vanilla game just blows up the location it's in. The only change BEX makes is for CASE to prevent the pilot injury.

edit: but since the OP talks about choosing to install CASE, I'll assume he's either playing RT or BTA.

My assumption as well.

[Sword_of_Light]

I'm pretty sure torso ammo detonations follow standard TT rules and go inward - considering the number of times I've cored enemy mechs by touching off their MG ammo.

In RT, there are several different kinds of CASE or CASElike. The Inner Sphere model just restricts ammo explosions to the torso, while CASEII reduces the damage to 5 points (and the ammo is destroyed). Safe munitions mimic CASE; a crit only destroys the ammo and its bin without explosion. Clan armor also functions as if CASE were installed. though not CASEII.

[rubyismycat]

oh im playing battleteck advanced 3062 latest update mod just for clarity