Black Knight 6b-KNT

[Chitoloco]

Anyone ever see this variant in game? I've only ever seen the 6-KNT and am going a little mad trying to find one.

For those that don't know, the regular 6-KNT has 42.5t free while the 6b has 48 which is amazing in this weight class. With 9 energy and 5 support hardpoints, this would be my dream melee brawler.

[Wantoomany]

I dont expect its in the game.

BL-6b-KNT
Used by the SLDF Royal BattleMech regiments, the 6b was introduced in 2751 and upgraded the heat dissipation system with double heat sinks. The tonnage saved was used to upgrade the large lasers to Raker-X Large Pulse Lasers and the PPC to an Kinslaughter ER PPC

The description alone pretty much rules it out as pure lostech.

[Chitoloco]

Well damn, you just crushed this man's dream. Thanks alot.

Anyway the reason I thought it was in the game is that I've been going off a spreadsheet that lists all the mechs. Seems I've seen pretty much all of them in game except for the bl-6b.

[Lmatt]

According to the files, there is indeed a 6b for the black knight. It is a rarity 5 mech so there is an extremely rare chance of it spawning on a mission. Probably similar spawn rate of something like a king crab. The in game description is as follows: "The Black Knight 6B was the harder-hitting, cooler-running Star League ancestor to the standard BL-6-KNT we have today. It did everything the 6 does, but better mostly thanks to its Double Heat Sinks, which are basically nonexistent these days."

[Wantoomany]

There is a mission where you get temporary control of some really sweet lostech. One of them is a BlackKnight. Althought I cant honestly remember if it is this special B version, but I suspect it is. The problem is, as far as im aware, you dont get to keep it beyond this one singular mission.

[Chitoloco]

Originally posted by 𝓛𝓶𝓪𝓽𝓽:

According to the files, there is indeed a 6b for the black knight. It is a rarity 5 mech so there is an extremely rare chance of it spawning on a mission. Probably similar spawn rate of something like a king crab. The in game description is as follows: "The Black Knight 6B was the harder-hitting, cooler-running Star League ancestor to the standard BL-6-KNT we have today. It did everything the 6 does, but better mostly thanks to its Double Heat Sinks, which are basically nonexistent these days."

Huh, and something else that's odd is this entry on wiki:

-You receive the 6B during the Raising the Dead storyline mission.

https://battletech.gamepedia.com/Black_Knight_BL-6B-KNT

I've been through the story twice now and never got that as a reward. I'm thinking it might not be implemented in game yet.

[Lmatt]

Originally posted by Wantoomany:

There is a mission where you get temporary control of some really sweet lostech. One of them is a BlackKnight. Althought I cant honestly remember if it is this special B version, but I suspect it is. The problem is, as far as im aware, you dont get to keep it beyond this one singular mission.

See I would think that, but the file suggests its a rare mech to find also because in the file the rarity setting is 5. Unobtainable mechs have a rarity setting of 0.

[Lmatt]

Originally posted by Prismbot:

Originally posted by 𝓛𝓶𝓪𝓽𝓽:

According to the files, there is indeed a 6b for the black knight. It is a rarity 5 mech so there is an extremely rare chance of it spawning on a mission. Probably similar spawn rate of something like a king crab. The in game description is as follows: "The Black Knight 6B was the harder-hitting, cooler-running Star League ancestor to the standard BL-6-KNT we have today. It did everything the 6 does, but better mostly thanks to its Double Heat Sinks, which are basically nonexistent these days."

Huh, and something else that's odd is this entry on wiki:

-You receive the 6B during the Raising the Dead storyline mission.

https://battletech.gamepedia.com/Black_Knight_BL-6B-KNT

I've been through the story twice now and never got that as a reward. I'm thinking it might not be implemented in game yet.

I think it might be a bug then because I didn't recieve it when I beat that mission. The 6b is implemented into to the game because using some file editing I can obtain and use this mech.

[Chitoloco]

By file editing, do you mean you just decrease the rarity so that it spawns more often?

edit:
I just opened the 6b json file and noticed on the 9th line it says "BLACKLISTED". Opened a few other mech jsons and don't see that entry on those.

[Xero]

Pretty sure the 6b variant shouldn't show up in random missions. It's lostech after all. The KGC-0000 is an attempt at recreating the KGC-000 but is still a rare model in the periphery.

[DarkFenix]

Wow this thing really would be pretty much the perfect melee mech. I might have to mod some shops to get myself one.

Originally posted by Prismbot:

By file editing, do you mean you just decrease the rarity so that it spawns more often?

edit:
I just opened the 6b json file and noticed on the 9th line it says "BLACKLISTED". Opened a few other mech jsons and don't see that entry on those.

I believe all "BLACKLISTED" means is that it can't be in AI unit tables. Target dummies and the other Lostech mechs are also blacklisted.

[Lmatt]

Originally posted by Prismbot:

By file editing, do you mean you just decrease the rarity so that it spawns more often?

edit:
I just opened the 6b json file and noticed on the 9th line it says "BLACKLISTED". Opened a few other mech jsons and don't see that entry on those.

Didn't catch that part, you are right. Blacklisted means you can't obtain it normally within the game similar to the special king crab.

[Chitoloco]

Yeah, but I wonder why it's not one of the mission rewards either. The json for the 6b says "blacklisted" and the only other mechs that have that are the starter ones like the BJ-1 or the story mission rewards like the 732b. So I'm assuming it was supposed to be awarded to you at some point in the campaign.

[Revener]

You get to play it in one story mission, but you get the Highlander as mission reward.

[Xero]

Originally posted by DarkFenix:

Wow this thing really would be pretty much the perfect melee mech. I might have to mod some shops to get myself one.

Funny you say that as I remember a variant that had a sword and shield.

[Chitoloco]

Originally posted by DarkFenix:

Wow this thing really would be pretty much the perfect melee mech. I might have to mod some shops to get myself one.

I'm gonna replace "Blacklisted" to "unit_release" and will report back my findings.