So clan mechs are actually better than IS?

[Rodrigo]

Was reading the battletech wiki, although the game happens before the clans invasion, i was wondering if clan mechs are literally better than IS ones. From what i gather just to begin with they are inter-changeable with omni pods, case units have no ton costs....

reminds me of mechwarrior 3 where anything clan was better, every weapon and equipment, though there was no difference from mech to mech since you could shoot lasers from missiles tubes in that game. loved that.

anyways, lore-wise, are clan mechs and equipment simply superior? is IS doing anything at all to counter that?

[fauxpas]

Yes, Clan mechs are better than IS mechs in every way possible when they first invade. After awhile things get muddied as the IS is able to eventually capture and backwards engineer clan tech.

[Rodrigo]

ah interesting, lore-wise though, clan invasion is over, is on progress? are new mechs and stuff coming out of this? I mean i don't know how MWO is connected to battletech, of course they keep releasing new mechs and II and IIC versions wich I have no idea whats the difference rn. It seems that in MWO clan invasion is on progress, but i dont really know if that games is 'spinning off' a bit.

[wesnef]

Originally posted by Captein:

ah interesting, lore-wise though, clan invasion is over, is on progress? are new mechs and stuff coming out of this?

This particular game is set in 3025. 25 years BEFORE the Clans. So there's no Clan mechs or tech.

[DasaKamov]

Originally posted by Captein:

I mean i don't know how MWO is connected to battletech

It's not, other than being set during different time periods in the same fictional universe.

[jmvbento]

Clan mechs are better than IS mechs. IS still beats the Clans once they realise this, because they're actually skilled combatants and strategists who acknowledge the value of combined arms. And then IS gets their hands on Clantech and holy crap, do things snowball.

[:WTF: Grendel]

Originally posted by Captein:

ah interesting, lore-wise though, clan invasion is over, is on progress? are new mechs and stuff coming out of this? I mean i don't know how MWO is connected to battletech, of course they keep releasing new mechs and II and IIC versions wich I have no idea whats the difference rn. It seems that in MWO clan invasion is on progress, but i dont really know if that games is 'spinning off' a bit.

Check out sarna.net for a lot of sources in lore for BattleTech. Eventually the Clan Invasion is stopped on a truce/armistice... then eventually completely repelled and the Clans that did take up shop inside the Inner Sphere stayed for good. ...and MWO, you don't want my opinion on that game lmfao PGI can kiss my....

[moshpitkosh]

Clan mechs are "better" for 2 reasons
1. Clan mechs have LosTech (forgotten IS tech) this is why many of their weapons are lighter or produce less heat, or both.
2. Clanners are all about the fighting, so they put more weapons and/or more powerful weapons on their mechs ( which is why they have more heat issues)

where an IS mech may have 1-2 PPCs many Clanners wouldn't think twice about putting 3-4 PPCs on their mech, overheat be damned, just vent coolant and fire a 2nd alpha strike. the plebs can fix the mech later. after you annihilated 2-3 mechs with 1-2 volleys

Originally posted by :WTF: Grendel:

Originally posted by Captein:

and MWO, you don't want my opinion on that game lmfao PGI can kiss my....

MWO isnt that bad gameplaywise, BT makes me feind for MWO (so many missed shots) but for a free game u cant beat MWO for the MW\BT MP experiece

[wesnef]

Originally posted by moshpitkosh:

1. Clan mechs have LosTech (forgotten IS tech) this is why many of their weapons are lighter or produce less heat, or both.

Well, technically, Clan Tech is better than LosTech, because they never 'lost' it - they kept working on improvements. :)

[Boltergeist]

Also something thats only reflected with RPG rules

Clan Mechs are technologically superior beyond just the obvious

Their Battlesystems are more stable, their most basic systems are even more capable then SL Era tech etc etc

But the processes to build even 1 chip of these systems is worth a small town in the IS

Which the Warriors dont care about and Deep fry their mechs every second shot just to Win the "Trial"

Which is why the FIS beat them in the end

[WC?]

Yah too bad for the clans they are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and their society is too weird. They probably would have beat IS if they weren't a bunch of kooks.

[Langkard]

Originally posted by Captein:

ah interesting, lore-wise though, clan invasion is over, is on progress? are new mechs and stuff coming out of this? I mean i don't know how MWO is connected to battletech, of course they keep releasing new mechs and II and IIC versions wich I have no idea whats the difference rn. It seems that in MWO clan invasion is on progress, but i dont really know if that games is 'spinning off' a bit.

Technically, the clans don't openly appear until 3049-3050 when the first 4 clans invade the periphery Oberon Confederation. But there is a clandestine clan presence in the Inner Sphere during the period in which this game is set - 3025.

The Wolf's Dragoons "mercenary" unit arrives in 3005. They were sent as a spying/survey mission from the Wolf clan as a prelude to invasion (I've oversimplified here). In 3025, they're working for House Kurita.

The richness of the Battletech universe is unrivaled in computer games, IMHO. From the original backstory created for the game and subsequent expansions to the many novels written in the BTech universe spanning many centuries. It is unusual in that sense.

[jmvbento]

Originally posted by Langkard:

The Wolf's Dragoons "mercenary" unit arrives in 3005. They were sent as a spying/survey mission from the Wolf clan as a prelude to invasion (I've oversimplified here). In 3025, they're working for House Kurita.

"The Nazis are working for the Japanese" is a bit... bad, though.

[:WTF: Grendel]

Originally posted by moshpitkosh:

Originally posted by :WTF: Grendel:

and MWO, you don't want my opinion on that game lmfao PGI can kiss my....

MWO isnt that bad gameplaywise, BT makes me feind for MWO (so many missed shots) but for a free game u cant beat MWO for the MW\BT MP experiece

I played it for over 3yrs from Closed Beta to the introduction of crates and the imbalancing act of CW. PGI ruined it for me... I can't even begin to think of what I could've done with the money I dropped on MWO. While I had fun running a merc unit for a couple years and meeting awesome people from around the world... I lost my love of MWO with the meta-builds and toxicity that evolved from the younger crowd of "leet" gamers.

[:WTF: Grendel]

Originally posted by jmvbento:

Originally posted by Langkard:

The Wolf's Dragoons "mercenary" unit arrives in 3005. They were sent as a spying/survey mission from the Wolf clan as a prelude to invasion (I've oversimplified here). In 3025, they're working for House Kurita.

"The Nazis are working for the Japanese" is a bit... bad, though.

I would hardly compare the Dragoons to Nazis... they had an alternative objective given to them by the Warden Khan of Clan Wolf vs what the rest of the Clans wanted. Read up on your BT history dude.

[jmvbento]

Originally posted by :WTF: Grendel:

Originally posted by jmvbento:

"The Nazis are working for the Japanese" is a bit... bad, though.

I would hardly compare the Dragoons to Nazis... they had an alternative objective given to them by the Warden Khan of Clan Wolf vs what the rest of the Clans wanted. Read up on your BT history dude.

I meant the Clans as a whole, not specifically the Dragoons.