Review bombing due to politics?

[spiritman]

Can't say that I am too surprised, given how that seems to be the standard on steam nowadays (similar thing happened to Wolfenstein 2).

[Senf]

Originally posted by TurnedToDust:

Gaming should be about getting away from all the daily ♥♥♥♥.

That sounds like something Ben Shapiro would say you evil right wing nazi. Welcome to the club ^__^

[spiritman]

Originally posted by TurnedToDust:

Gaming should be about getting away from all the daily ♥♥♥♥.

Asking that artists divorce their work from politics is absurd and is in itself censorious... that is exactly what people who are trying to hurt studios like this one are using as the justification for their actions.

[TurnedToDust]

Originally posted by Senf:

That sounds like something Ben Shapiro would say you evil right wing nazi. Welcome to the club ^__^

Nah thanks, I have enough backbone, intelligence and wisdom to come up with my own vallues and views.

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by Nifft:

Can't say that I am too surprised, given how that seems to be the standard on steam nowadays (similar thing happened to Wolfenstein 2).

The SJW's did it with Kingdom Come, don't make it look one sided.

[TurnedToDust]

Originally posted by Nifft:

Originally posted by TurnedToDust:

Gaming should be about getting away from all the daily ♥♥♥♥.

Asking that artists divorce their work from politics is absurd and is in itself censorious... that is exactly what people who are trying to hurt studios like this one are using as the justification for their actions.

You are making assumptions.

[The Former]

Generally, people come to games to escape the annoyances of reality. When something that annoys someone plugs its way into a game, particularly a game which would've been the same mechanical experience without it, it really irks those people. That's my observation.

[Zaptruder]

It's disappointing to hear that simps and incels getting all up in arms at something so innocuous as pronouns and are brigading this game as a result.

But, from the few negative reviews I glanced at, they seemed to be somewhat on point in the criticisms?

i.e. Game is crashy and unstable. It's crashed twice for me now after the tutorial mission - Can't even advance, and it's too boring to keep trying for me right now.

And it's too boring because of the slow animations and pauses that infect the core of the gameplay.

When I played the beta 6 months ago, I noted that was a significant annoyance, but I assumed they'd figure it out, so just left the game and waited for them to fix it - now; not so confident that they even see it as a problem. But it is - I just don't have the patience to watch mechs slowly and serially maneuvering into place in turn based combat. It'd be entirely different in real time, mech commander style... but this game since to want to have its 'weighty slow animation of battle mechs' cake... and eat it too with its 'turn based micromanagement style' gameplay.

Somethings gotta give in that equation, and in this case, it's my patience!

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by Nifft:

Originally posted by TurnedToDust:

Gaming should be about getting away from all the daily ♥♥♥♥.

Asking that artists divorce their work from politics is absurd and is in itself censorious... that is exactly what people who are trying to hurt studios like this one are using as the justification for their actions.

ROFL, a lot of gamers game to get away from real life. We just don't want modern real world ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ forced down our throats by devs that wish they were working in Hollywood instead.

[Scipio1st]

Its not even about politics, its about a persons sexuality. Its just a bunch of transphiobic people complaining that reality has entered their fantasy worlds.

[Sol Invictus]

Originally posted by Dat 900mmr guy:

While I am not a fan of all this pronoun thing, the game only gives you a 3rd option in the form of "they", which is also used in standard English too...
I don't see any other SJW issue with the game so far. It's pretty good so far, actually.

I don't know why some people get so triggered over such trivialities.

Its not used in standard english, its not used when you talk to a singular person that you know who he is.
When you talk about something that is general and vague then you use they, like “if anyone around here play video games, they must come forward”.
What do they teach you at school? Its not grammar apparently.

[Dr. Marker]

The only 'SJW-ish' things I've seen so far would be the fact that the game asks you 'pronoun' rather than gender (which seems to be fairly obsolete since most characters in game seem to refer to you either by name or by your title), the 'Feminist Utopia' faction (although I'm not 100% sure if they were in older editions of BT so I can't say for certain if that's an 'SJW' thing or just HBS simply being loyal to the source material) and if one were cynical then you could also suggest the fact most of the major characters, as far as the first few hours have shown anyway, are non-white (however, they seem to be likeable and decently done enough that I never got a 'token' feel from them, it feels like an incidental factor, exactly as it should be).

Overall, if there was some SJW stuff going on behind the scenes during development it really hasn't manifested itself all that much in the game (again, as far as the first few hours are concerned).

Originally posted by Nifft:

Asking that artists divorce their work from politics is absurd and is in itself censorious... that is exactly what people who are trying to hurt studios like this one are using as the justification for their actions.

It certainly can be, although it's a comparitively lesser evil compared to the numerous people and outlets out there asking for artists to forcefully marry their games to a particular set of politics in the name of 'progress' and 'inclusivity' (even if only because of the sheer scale of the problem).

Let's be blunt here, we are currently in a situation where a game can be blasted as 'problematic' for being apolitical (FarCry 5) or because the creator's vision doesn't fall in line with what certain outlets wanted it to be (Kingdom Come: Deliverence).

A few people review bombing a popular game is likely not going to accomplish much.

Most of the major gaming news sites and pundits out there branding you and your game as horribly racist, bigoted, problematic and a reason why the industry is such a toxic place has a much better chance of harming a studio.

[thorin106]

I do not give a care about what these reviewers are trying to do or sabotage for in the end it is about the individual and thier feelings towards an product. Sometime what they do works and sometimes it don't. The golden years of gaming is over anyway and this is the new generation of gamers. I do not rely on reviews that do not show gameplay for just talk by itself is not enough. I was finally to play last night and I was impressed with the game. I prefer first person as it was with Activision Mechwarrior (The very first one) so I can get into the mix and see upfront the battle going on. Everyone must make thier own decision being the reviewer might be bias and give the game an false review to push thier agenda.

[path_evermore]

I see the "they" option my first thought. "Damn Anti SJW people are going to ruin any discussion about this game, it's star wars all over again"

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by Dr. Marker:

The only 'SJW-ish' things I've seen so far would be the fact that the game asks you 'pronoun' rather than gender (which seems to be fairly obsolete since most characters in game seem to refer to you either by name or by your title), the 'Feminist Utopia' faction (although I'm not 100% sure if they were in older editions of BT so I can't say for certain if that's an 'SJW' thing or just HBS simply being loyal to the source material) and if one were cynical then you could also suggest the fact most of the major characters, as far as the first few hours have shown anyway, are non-white (however, they seem to be likeable and decently done enough that I never got a 'token' feel from them, it feels like an incidental factor, exactly as it should be).

Overall, if there was some SJW stuff going on behind the scenes during development it really hasn't manifested itself all that much in the game (again, as far as the first few hours are concerned).

Originally posted by Nifft:

Asking that artists divorce their work from politics is absurd and is in itself censorious... that is exactly what people who are trying to hurt studios like this one are using as the justification for their actions.

It certainly can be, although it's a comparitively lesser evil compared to the numerous people and outlets out there asking for artists to forcefully marry their games to a particular set of politics in the name of 'progress' and 'inclusivity' (even if only because of the sheer scale of the problem).

Let's be blunt here, we are currently in a situation where a game can be blasted as 'problematic' for being apolitical (FarCry 5) or because the creator's vision doesn't fall in line with what certain outlets wanted it to be (Kingdom Come: Deliverence).

A few people review bombing a popular game is likely not going to accomplish much.

Most of the major gaming news sites and pundits out there branding you and your game as horribly racist, bigoted, problematic and a reason why the industry is such a toxic place has a much better chance of harming a studio.

The pozzed and retarded game "journalists" are one the reasons the gaming community is toxic. They're never happy unless they're pushing some leftist narrative or degenrate crap on people.

[Dumah]

For now its looks more like anti-anti-sjw people are ruining discussion, not the other way around.