List of Known Mechs and Variants

[wendigo211]

I know this probably won't get stickied, but the question gets asked often enough that it's probably worthwhile to have a thread with the known information. So to start off with.

• There are no clan mechs.
  
• The unseen mechs that are pending litigation won't be added officially unless the trial is resolved in HBS' favor (the earliest that this could happen looks like next April)

Here's a list of the known mechs in order of ascending tonnage with links to their Sarna pages:
Lights

• Locust[www.sarna.net] (20 tons): LCT-IS, LCT-1M, LCT-1V
  
• Commando[www.sarna.net] (25 tons): COM-1B, COM-2D
  
• Spider[www.sarna.net] (30 tons): SDR-5V
  
• Urbanmech[www.sarna.net] (30 tons): UM-R60
  
• Firestarter[www.sarna.net] (35 tons): FS9-H
  
• Jenner[www.sarna.net] (35 tons): JR7-D
  
• Panther[www.sarna.net] (35 tons): PNT-9R

Mediums

• Cicada[www.sarna.net] (40 tons): CDA-2A, CDA-3C
  
• Blackjack[www.sarna.net] (45 tons): BJ-1 ("BJ-1" Starter")
  
• Vindicator[www.sarna.net] (45 tons): VND-1R
  
• Centurion[www.sarna.net] (50 tons): CN9-A, CN9-AL
  
• Enforcer[www.sarna.net] (50 tons): ENF-4R
  
• Hunchback[www.sarna.net] (50 tons): HBK-4G, HBK-4P
  
• Trebuchet[www.sarna.net] (50 tons): TBT-5N
  
• Griffin[www.sarna.net] (55 tons): GRF-1N, GRF-1S
  
• Kintaro[www.sarna.net] (55 tons): KTO-18
  
• Shadowhawk[www.sarna.net] (55 tons): SHD-2H, SHD-2D
  
• Wolverine[www.sarna.net] (55 tons): WVR-6K, WVR-6R

Heavies

• Dragon[www.sarna.net] (60 tons): DRG-1N
  
• Quickdraw[www.sarna.net] (60 tons): QKD-4G, QKD-5A
  
• Catapult[www.sarna.net] (65 tons): CPTL-C1, CPTL-K2
  
• Jagermech[www.sarna.net] (65 tons): JM6-S, JM6-A
  
• Thunderbolt[www.sarna.net] (65 tons): TDR-5S, TDR-5SE, TDR-5SS
  
• Cataphract[www.sarna.net] (70 tons): CTF-1X
  
• Grasshopper[www.sarna.net] (70 tons): GHR-5H
  
• Black Knight[www.sarna.net] (75 tons): BL-7-KNT
  
• Orion[www.sarna.net] (75 tons): ON1-K, ON1-V

Assaults

• Awesome[www.sarna.net] (80 tons): AWS-8Q, AWS-8T
  
• Victor[www.sarna.net] (80 tons): VTR-9S, VTR-9B
  
• Zeus[www.sarna.net] (80 tons): ZEU-6S
  
• Battle Master[www.sarna.net] (85 tons): BLR-1G
  
• Stalker[www.sarna.net] (85 tons): STK-3F
  
• Highlander[www.sarna.net] (90 tons): HGN-733, HGN-733P
  
• Banshee[www.sarna.net] (95 tons): BNC-3E, BNC-3M
  
• Atlas[www.sarna.net] (100 tons): AS7-D
  
• King Crab[www.sarna.net] (100 tons): KGC-0000

If I missed any, or there are any changes, let me know and I'll make them.

Edit: Thanks to Landran1982 for pointing out the TDR-5SS and Timaeus for pointing out that I should specify that the defendants need to win the case.

Edit: Added the "BJ-1 Starter"

[Nox]

oh wow thanks, this is a wonderful list of mechs.

[I am noob]

Thunderbolt TDR-5SS was spotted during Paradox's Mechlab stream.

[Timaeus]

Originally posted by wendigo211:

• The unseen mechs that are pending litigation won't be added officially until the trial is resolved (at the earliest that looks like next April)

Won't be added until the trial is over, and found in favor of HBS/PGI/CGL most likely.

[bloodyjack_69]

dang was hoping to get a raven ar some point for my scout mech. though thanks for posting looks like a decent list to start with

[Seadramon]

Originally posted by bloodyjack_69:

dang was hoping to get a raven ar some point for my scout mech. though thanks for posting looks like a decent list to start with

Raven was going to be in but was cut because they didnt work out the ECM stuff in time, but its supposed to be coming.

[JPMcMillen]

Originally posted by Polarity:

Originally posted by bloodyjack_69:

dang was hoping to get a raven ar some point for my scout mech. though thanks for posting looks like a decent list to start with

Raven was going to be in but was cut because they didnt work out the ECM stuff in time, but its supposed to be coming.

And it will probably be the older non-los tech version with the 7.5 ton, inferior, ECM equipment.

[Timaeus]

Originally posted by Eisberg:

Awesome list, thank you.

Do the variants actually mean anything, just by looking at the variant, does it tell you something right off the bat, without having to look it up, cause of standard abreviations or code, or something like that?

Yes and no. The abreviation designates the variant and therefore with prior knowledge you know what it can carry, but that abreviation isn't fully standardized.
Some letter codes mean something ( M means Marik, K means Kurita) but some don't (0000 means? Q means?).

[jmsand1]

Good job!!

[chacolil]

Im starting to make research on the BT Universe in order to be more familiarized with the game, so thanks for this tidbit of info. As new to this series, do you know if there are better drawings for the mechs you posted? Since I dont know much of this world apart from what Ive read in the Wiki, I visualized the mechs a little bit more cool looking, but they seem to be modeled in a more of a functional way rather than stylish, so I would really like to see if there are some color drawings or animations if there exist some, to have something to compare to what the game will provide.

[Timaeus]

Originally posted by chacolil:

Im starting to make research on the BT Universe in order to be more familiarized with the game, so thanks for this tidbit of info. As new to this series, do you know if there are better drawings for the mechs you posted? Since I dont know much of this world apart from what Ive read in the Wiki, I visualized the mechs a little bit more cool looking, but they seem to be modeled in a more of a functional way rather than stylish, so I would really like to see if there are some color drawings or animations if there exist some, to have something to compare to what the game will provide.

Go look at the mechs at mwomercs.com . those are the art assets being used in this game.

[chacolil]

Originally posted by Timaeus:

Originally posted by chacolil:

Im starting to make research on the BT Universe in order to be more familiarized with the game, so thanks for this tidbit of info. As new to this series, do you know if there are better drawings for the mechs you posted? Since I dont know much of this world apart from what Ive read in the Wiki, I visualized the mechs a little bit more cool looking, but they seem to be modeled in a more of a functional way rather than stylish, so I would really like to see if there are some color drawings or animations if there exist some, to have something to compare to what the game will provide.

Go look at the mechs at mwomercs.com . those are the art assets being used in this game.

thank you very much :)

[Agent Provocateur]

I am counting the days till release!

[NexAngelus *X*]

ok i understand why no access to stuff like mad cat/daishi but why are there no marauders? i am just hearing about this law suit are they appart of it? seems like a fairly popular mech and i cant see any reason SOME way or form it should be in the game? ps: clan xpack pls :) thx

[wendigo211]

Yeah the Marauder is one of the unseen mechs. I put a link to the lawsuit thread if you want to delve into it. But these should give you the cliff notes version:
https://www.pcgamesn.com/battletech/battletech-harmony-gold-lawsuit
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Unseen

Edit: There are still a lot more mechs that could be added, which aren't unseen and fit with the timeline, but since Battletech is getting the designs from MWO, if they aren't in that game, we probably won't see them. Antyhing from the revised 3025 techincal readout[www.sarna.net] that isn't on the list above would have a lore friendly version in 3025.

[Eumerin]

The Marauder artwork is a copy of the Zentraedi Officer's Battle Pod from the old anime series Super Dimension Fortress: Macross. When Battletech was originally published, many (or possibly all at the time) of the battlemechs used artwork directly copied from various Japanese animated series. The artwork was licensed from the companies that FASA (the publisher of Battletech) thought owned the overseas licensing rights for the artwork in question.

Quite a while later, a question arose about those rights.

Around the same time that Battletech was published, Harmony Gold acquired the rights for the TV series Super Dimension Fortress: Macross (and a couple of other series that don't really matter here). They got those rights from a different Japanese company than the one that FASA had approached. A number of the mechs that used copied artwork - including the Marauder - came from Macross. For a while, this didn't cause any problems. But after a decade or so, Harmony Gold came to the conclusion that its licensing agreement provided it more rights than it had originally realized, and went after FASA. And upon coming to that conclusion, it went after FASA, claiming that FASA did not have the rights to use the designs for the battlemechs in question.

There's lots of arguments and counterarguments over the whole thing, and the legal rights issues of pretty much everything Macross is a bit muddled (that goes even more for the movie - no one knows exactly who owns the rights to the Macross movie in the US). But the important part is this - when Big West was creating Macross, it got assistance from Tatsunako. One of the ways that it compensated Tatsunako was to give the company international distribution rights for Macross (because this all took place back when international anime rights still weren't worth all that much). FASA went to Big West (I think) for its license. Harmony Gold went to Tatsunako. Harmony Gold originally interpreted its license in a fairly conservative manner (i.e. limited to the Macross TV series episodes only). But later, as mentioned above, the company decided to expand its understanding of what the license covered, and it claimed that the battlemechs that were derived from Macross designs were an infringement of its license with Tatsunako. Because of that claim, FASA removed all of the battlemechs that used artwork derived from non-FASA sources.

That's the quick and simple version. If you want a more detailed version (including analysis of whether HG's claims hold water, or how the original Cease and Desist that HG filed against FASA played out), you'll need to research it elsewhere.