57 Leaf Clover x Recycler interaction?

[Lamasta]

Long time fan here, Been chatting with some buddies of mine and we figured (If it isn't already in, hare to determine) that Recycler should consider the reroll target an 'unfavorable outcome' to lessen the likelihood of rerolling into the same Item with extra luck, Vice versa Purity would be affecting it as well, which works quite well given it's name.

[Zeddy]

Clover doesn't effect statically generated rolls like where chests are placed, which items are in them, odds of chance shrines etc. Recycler rolls count in this category since you can fire up a prismatic trial and recycle for the same item every time.

It would be a weird thing to include anyway. How often would you notice it happening?

[Lamasta]

Zeddy님이 먼저 게시:

Clover doesn't effect statically generated rolls like where chests are placed, which items are in them, odds of chance shrines etc. Recycler rolls count in this category since you can fire up a prismatic trial and recycle for the same item every time.

It would be a weird thing to include anyway. How often would you notice it happening?

Well According to one of my friends he rerolls into the same Item quite often, I found the discussion we had afterwards worthy of a post here, to get some other thoughts on it. I am aware Clover doesn't affect chest placement/Item's within, Recycler is an item effect however which Clover seems to affect every item short of Tougher Times.

[Jimmy Hunter]

Lamasta님이 먼저 게시:

Zeddy님이 먼저 게시:

Clover doesn't effect statically generated rolls like where chests are placed, which items are in them, odds of chance shrines etc. Recycler rolls count in this category since you can fire up a prismatic trial and recycle for the same item every time.

It would be a weird thing to include anyway. How often would you notice it happening?

Well According to one of my friends he rerolls into the same Item quite often, I found the discussion we had afterwards worthy of a post here, to get some other thoughts on it. I am aware Clover doesn't affect chest placement/Item's within, Recycler is an item effect however which Clover seems to affect every item short of Tougher Times.

It's a 100% chance of happening when the effect is able to be triggered, so Clover wouldn't have any effect anyways.

[Lamasta]

Jimmy Hunter님이 먼저 게시:

Lamasta님이 먼저 게시:

Well According to one of my friends he rerolls into the same Item quite often, I found the discussion we had afterwards worthy of a post here, to get some other thoughts on it. I am aware Clover doesn't affect chest placement/Item's within, Recycler is an item effect however which Clover seems to affect every item short of Tougher Times.

It's a 100% chance of happening when the effect is able to be triggered, so Clover wouldn't have any effect anyways.

No you misunderstand, I am proposing a change to consider the item you are rerolling to be a less favorable outcome in 57 leaf clover's effect. thus if an item would be rerolled into itself, it would reroll it twice and take an option that isn't the original target item being rerolled (I.E. a tri tip dagger having a lowered chance to reroll into a tri tip dagger)

[Conga Lyne]

I think the recycler should just never reroll an item in to itself. full stop.

It's kind of dumb that you should have to rely on rng for an equipment to preform it's basic function

[Jimmy Hunter]

Lamasta님이 먼저 게시:

Jimmy Hunter님이 먼저 게시:

It's a 100% chance of happening when the effect is able to be triggered, so Clover wouldn't have any effect anyways.

No you misunderstand, I am proposing a change to consider the item you are rerolling to be a less favorable outcome in 57 leaf clover's effect. thus if an item would be rerolled into itself, it would reroll it twice and take an option that isn't the original target item being rerolled (I.E. a tri tip dagger having a lowered chance to reroll into a tri tip dagger)

It shouldn't re-roll into the same item period. That negates the entire point of putting the Recylcer on CD.