Man, Huntress is absolute garbage nowadays

[Monopanda]

Damage is low, frail like nothing else, no defensive item seems to help at all with it. Hell, even with Balista and Shaped Glass she doesn't seem to proc high damage items often. False Son is no fun at all with her unless you farm for like 1 1/2 hours. Please, give her some damage, attack speed, more health, whatever. Anything that makes her playable. Cause right now, she likes to auto attack yet can't do so since she just pops when you try that..

[amathy]

Literally one of the most consistent survivors
You should not be taking damage almost ever w/ Huntress
And Ballista is guaranteed band proc so idk what you mean by not proccing items

[Monopanda]

Originally posted by amathy:

Literally one of the most consistent survivors
You should not be taking damage almost ever w/ Huntress
And Ballista is guaranteed band proc so idk what you mean by not proccing items

Well, no clue if she is bugged or whatever. False Son is a literal gamble since anything getting past the pillar during the laser attack just kills you. Huntress as is just feels like something is missing. Range, damage, attack speed, I don't know. She takes forever to scale because of her poor base damage. All I know is, she got weaker and weaker over time and it is very noticeable. It's not like I am the only one complaining either, she got nerfed countless of times and has among the worst damage output against the new bosses since she can't even get her bounces..

[Linear]

Yeah pretty much what amathy said, even with her default utility she's still very reliable, however you may want to swap your default special for your alternate one since the default special kinda sucks, usable but ♥♥♥♥.

[Linear]

Originally posted by Monopanda:

Originally posted by amathy:

Literally one of the most consistent survivors
You should not be taking damage almost ever w/ Huntress
And Ballista is guaranteed band proc so idk what you mean by not proccing items

Well, no clue if she is bugged or whatever. False Son is a literal gamble since anything getting past the pillar during the laser attack just kills you. Huntress as is just feels like something is missing. Range, damage, attack speed, I don't know. She takes forever to scale because of her poor base damage. All I know is, she got weaker and weaker over time and it is very noticeable. It's not like I am the only one complaining either, she got nerfed countless of times and has among the worst damage output against the new bosses since she can't even get her bounces..

Have you even tried all the other survivors against False Son, because might be the boss ironically and not the survivor, I still feel like he needs something to make him more engaging for new and old players, not sure what though?

[Monopanda]

Originally posted by Linear:

Originally posted by Monopanda:

Well, no clue if she is bugged or whatever. False Son is a literal gamble since anything getting past the pillar during the laser attack just kills you. Huntress as is just feels like something is missing. Range, damage, attack speed, I don't know. She takes forever to scale because of her poor base damage. All I know is, she got weaker and weaker over time and it is very noticeable. It's not like I am the only one complaining either, she got nerfed countless of times and has among the worst damage output against the new bosses since she can't even get her bounces..

Have you even tried all the other survivors against False Son, because might be the boss ironically and not the survivor, I still feel like he needs something to make him more engaging for new and old players, not sure what though?

Yes, I am not struggling with anybody else. It's just Huntress that even without Shaped Glass, feels absurdly squishy. Doesn't help that her attack range is so much lower in exchange for the auto aim. I agree that she is reliable, consistent. But she is also fairly weak to make up for it.

[Linear]

Originally posted by Monopanda:

Originally posted by Linear:

Have you even tried all the other survivors against False Son, because might be the boss ironically and not the survivor, I still feel like he needs something to make him more engaging for new and old players, not sure what though?

Yes, I am not struggling with anybody else. It's just Huntress that even without Shaped Glass, feels absurdly squishy. Doesn't help that her attack range is so much lower in exchange for the auto aim. I agree that she is reliable, consistent. But she is also fairly weak to make up for it.

She is a default survivor for a reason, she and mando put in a lot effort to teach you that items matter in runs early on when you first start out, though they still have their strengths even as just default survivors, however if range and damage is an issue for you, you may want to practice getting good with Ballista, it's a very good skill to have under your belt.

[Monopanda]

Originally posted by Linear:

She is a default survivor for a reason, she and mando put in a lot effort to teach you that items matter in runs early on when you first start out, though they still have their strengths even as just default survivors, however if range and damage is an issue for you, you may want to practice getting good with Ballista, it's a very good skill to have under your belt.

Yeah, she is one of the early Survivors. Just seems like they made her much worse for no reason. Like I said, range is problematic and her Arrow Rain is a much worse DIRECTIVE: Drill which is silly since she is supposed to be frail but deal lots of damage. Her basic primary is really weak, her alternative good but only after getting a bunch of crit. I think she needs some love, the balance of damage to HP just seems way off. She dies quickly, yet also doesn't have the damage she should have. Just surprisingly weak for what used to be an S-tier character

[Monopanda]

By the way, just started another Monsoon run with Commando, just to see if I am going crazy or if Huntress really is weak. Turns out, he feels so much better to play, especially with the Alternatives, besides the useless grenade. Being able to properly aim and deal damage from afar is just worth so much and his damage feels a lot more consistent, too. I don't know if I am just burned out from Huntress (from RoR and RoR:R and RoR2 of course), but she has become pretty much my most hated Survivor in Risk of Rain 2 over the last months. Just nowhere near as consistent as she should be and extremely item dependant.

[Linear]

Ok then I have to show you this then, here's a guy who was able to beat False Son with Huntress, he's a streamer that does a lot of Eclipse 8 runs, and has a couple of guides on how to get better at the game, dude is absolutely nuts: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hg-o0ILp9xk&t=1015s

[Bug Guy]

Yeah most of the speedruns ive seen are with Huntress, she is still very strong. Yes her auto-attack DPS is terrible, but you make up for it with exceptional mobility and burst damage from Ballista. Shes by no means the best survivor, but shes not weak. I actually think Commando is much worse than her overall ( but certainly stronger after several loops). I dont think False Son is a good litmus test for how "good" she is, since the boss fight is still really wonky and has some survivability checks which she is obviously not the best at.

Not sure what countless nerfs youre referring to but she might just not be your character. Which is fine! I know Loader is crazy strong, but I just dont vibe with them. Meanwhile I can usually play more consistently and be stronger while playing Acrid, who I would argue is a weaker survivor. Sometimes thats just the way the shoe fits. Cheers

[lordclipsus]

Damn, first Arti and now Huntress, something ain't right man

[amathy]

Originally posted by Monopanda:

Originally posted by amathy:

Literally one of the most consistent survivors
You should not be taking damage almost ever w/ Huntress
And Ballista is guaranteed band proc so idk what you mean by not proccing items

Well, no clue if she is bugged or whatever. False Son is a literal gamble since anything getting past the pillar during the laser attack just kills you. Huntress as is just feels like something is missing. Range, damage, attack speed, I don't know. She takes forever to scale because of her poor base damage. All I know is, she got weaker and weaker over time and it is very noticeable. It's not like I am the only one complaining either, she got nerfed countless of times and has among the worst damage output against the new bosses since she can't even get her bounces..

No, she's not bugged, just sounds like you're playing her wrong tbh.
She hasn't gotten weaker or nerfed at all so still not really sure what you're talking about. The last time they rebalanced any of her skills was March 2020 when they buffed strafe and both of her specials.
Also weird that you're calling Huntress item dependent after playing Commando who is probably the most item dependent survivor in the game.
I'm just gonna say there's a reason why whenever you're watching a video of someone trying to beat a really difficult modded difficulty, there's a pretty high chance they're playing Huntress, and it's not because she's garbage.

[Monopanda]

Originally posted by Linear:

Ok then I have to show you this then, here's a guy who was able to beat False Son with Huntress, he's a streamer that does a lot of Eclipse 8 runs, and has a couple of guides on how to get better at the game, dude is absolutely nuts: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hg-o0ILp9xk&t=1015s

Yes, she can do this, absolutely. Seems like she hasn't been directly nerfed, but the game changes overall affect her a lot and her stats just weren't ever adjusted to make up for it.

Originally posted by amathy:

Originally posted by Monopanda:

Well, no clue if she is bugged or whatever. False Son is a literal gamble since anything getting past the pillar during the laser attack just kills you. Huntress as is just feels like something is missing. Range, damage, attack speed, I don't know. She takes forever to scale because of her poor base damage. All I know is, she got weaker and weaker over time and it is very noticeable. It's not like I am the only one complaining either, she got nerfed countless of times and has among the worst damage output against the new bosses since she can't even get her bounces..

No, she's not bugged, just sounds like you're playing her wrong tbh.
She hasn't gotten weaker or nerfed at all so still not really sure what you're talking about. The last time they rebalanced any of her skills was March 2020 when they buffed strafe and both of her specials.
Also weird that you're calling Huntress item dependent after playing Commando who is probably the most item dependent survivor in the game.
I'm just gonna say there's a reason why whenever you're watching a video of someone trying to beat a really difficult modded difficulty, there's a pretty high chance they're playing Huntress, and it's not because she's garbage.

Seems like she hasn't been directly nerfed, but the game changes overall affect her a lot and her stats just weren't ever adjusted to make up for it. I mentioned Commando because yes he is item dependant too, but like most Survivors scales really well. Meanwhile Huntress Glaive and Ballista both make her a stationary target, not scaling with stuff like Attack Speed as some others do for quicker animations. Paired with her subpar attack range it just makes her feel bad (in my opinion) and that is coming from someone 100% the original game with all Artifacts enabled, hell I even enjoy the troll character from Returns, but Huntress here, nah.. She really did not age that gracefully, I'd pick Bandit over her any day of the weak, as an example.

[Linear]

Not really sure how to help you at this point other telling you to git gud or just mod Huntress to be more power than she already is, can't lead a camel to water.

[Monopanda]

Originally posted by Linear:

Not really sure how to help you at this point other telling you to git gud or just mod Huntress to be more power than she already is, can't lead a camel to water.

It's okay. Maybe she just isn't for me anymore. WHen even Chef feels better to me, I don't know what else to say, especially when she had a free Brilliant Behemoth, neither Comnmando nor Chef had that. I think she has suffered from the new items and such, most rankings but her in the middle, too. The best items on her are still base game items, so my theory is that the addition of new stuff makes it harder to get her best items, thus resulting in her feeling weaker nowadays. No clue if that makes sense to others, too.