Disappointed in the last boss... Lore wise.

[Rhadamante]

This isn't an umpteenth post about phase 4 or whatever, this is about how Mithrix fit in the lore and how dull he feels. It's like he's a fake boss.

We've been hyped about the Heretic (https://steamcommunity.com/app/632360/discussions/0/2639605881176510957/) stuck deep in the Moon and when we get there, we instead get this gray nondescript character aptly nicknamed "King of Nothing". And then the Moon blows up (except it just blinks out of existence).

About Kur-skan the heretic, she was separated into 4 parts and we got 2 items of the heretic. Where are the other 2 ? Where is the heretic herself ? On the Moon ? But it blows up/disappears, so what happens to her ?

Lore wise, I feel like Mithrix doesn't fit, he feels like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ placeholder, a decoy.

I mean, the theme of the Moon has been central since the beginning with the logo (RoR1 was just a planet, RoR2 has the moon added) and the lunar items. And the heretic was supposed to be on that Moon, so what gives ? Why does all of it feels so underwhelming.

My theory is:
- the 1.0 was rushed and he really is a kinda placeholder. Would explain the emptiness of the final level, the lack of flavor of the boss and some of the issues people have been reporting
- or, something's coming.

I'd like to be corrected if I missed something (haven't re-read all the entries or anything, just going off what I remember, and my other post).

[Aidal]

Publicado originalmente por Rhadamante:

This isn't an umpteenth post about phase 4 or whatever, this is about how Mithrix fit in the lore and how dull he feels. It's like he's a fake boss.

We've been hyped about the Heretic (https://steamcommunity.com/app/632360/discussions/0/2639605881176510957/) stuck deep in the Moon and when we get there, we instead get this gray nondescript character aptly nicknamed "King of Nothing". And then the Moon blows up (except it just blinks out of existence).

About Kur-skan the heretic, she was separated into 4 parts and we got 2 items of the heretic. Where are the other 2 ? Where is the heretic herself ? On the Moon ? But it blows up/disappears, so what happens to her ?

Lore wise, I feel like Mithrix doesn't fit, he feels like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ placeholder, a decoy.

I mean, the theme of the Moon has been central since the beginning with the logo (RoR1 was just a planet, RoR2 has the moon added) and the lunar items. And the heretic was supposed to be on that Moon, so what gives ? Why does all of it feels so underwhelming.

My theory is:
- the 1.0 was rushed and he really is a kinda placeholder. Would explain the emptiness of the final level, the lack of flavor of the boss and some of the issues people have been reporting
- or, something's coming.

I'd like to be corrected if I missed something (haven't re-read all the entries or anything, just going off what I remember, and my other post).

There was a reddit thread that had made a decent lore prediction at Mithrix being Providence's brother, long story short they both stumbled upon the planet, Mithrix wanted to destroy or contain it in the void. Providence wanted to protect it at all costs, Providence strayed him on the moon by destroying a teleporter instead of killing him.

His title as king of nothing comes from how he rules over a dead moon, with the only inhabitants being creations of his own for a war that never came to be.

[Pmk]

I don't mind too much the boss, but I also would like if they have something more planned.

My guess/hope is that the Mithrix fight is the "bad ending", while obliteration is the neutral ending. The good ending would require to revive the heretic and then fight Mithrix or something similar: while Mithrix looks like he doesn't have many connections with the rest of the game, the heretic has more of them, so it would make sense for the game to have more meaning in that regard.

[Rhadamante]

Publicado originalmente por Aidal:

There was a reddit thread that had made a decent lore prediction at Mithrix being Providence's brother, long story short they both stumbled upon the planet, Mithrix wanted to destroy or contain it in the void. Providence wanted to protect it at all costs, Providence strayed him on the moon by destroying a teleporter instead of killing him.

His title as king of nothing comes from how he rules over a dead moon, with the only inhabitants being creations of his own for a war that never came to be.

The lore made it pretty clear the final boss would be someone calling Providence "brother" but also gave absolutely no other details about it. It could have been anything/anyone, which is all the more disappointing all we got was an almost entirely grey dude on a grey level with 2 monster per square kilometer.

And it's also disappointing because it doesn't explain what the whole heretic's stuff (also on the moon apparently) is all about.

I don't know, maybe I was just expecting too much. The first game was pretty cryptic and it can be fine to stay vague but I had hoped we'd get more details.

[AngelofAnger]

I agree about the boss not having a story is kinda huge.

about the heretic I want to believe that once we got the 2 remaining parts(in future updates) the survivor will tranform into the heretic. is basically an hidden character(maybe with a cool passive ability) or the heretic will appear as a boss.

I think we all got the -who the hell is this guy- moment.

and one note about the chimeras constuctions. it would be cool to have the chimera version of guardian golem and normal golem. that moon floating part will fit so well.

i dont think the boss is a place holder- too much time spent animating it and things like that.

I think they prioritize content over lore - they really should have put something to focus on the moon -like in the fields on in the 5th level a couple of steeles with the boss or his hammer drawn somewhere. I mean seriusly.

[Dragontoast]

To add to this the Console Launch Trailer showed the shadow of a large enemy that is still not present in the game. Maybe it was an early design of Mithrix since it has similarities with Providence or it could be something completely different.

[Vhadros Theveguis]

When you kill him, he says "Brother... Perhaps... We will get it right... Next time."
It shows on the bottom left corner of the screen, like an "[_] orb has appeared" message.
Not to mention the other logs (specifically A Moment: Fractured and Bulwark's Amby) that include someone talking to their brother, which in this case, is possibly Mithrax, or maybe Mithrax IS the one talking in these logs.

You guys just need to pay attention more to the bottom left side of the screen.

[Zeddy]

She's pretty dead, though. I was expecting some secret boss fight for when you get all four heretic pieces, but those didn't make it into 1.0 either.

Maybe it'll be in some of that post-game content.