Is there some secret to the famous "Preon Accumulator" that I'm missing?

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It's supposted to be great I think, but whenever I'm using it, it does laughably low damage and can't even one-shot elites. Am I missing something?

[Senki]

Originally posted by MateAndMead:

Originally posted by seimein:

REX is kinda the best character in the game though.

Maybe with command, but without command... Hooo boy. He sure has survivability, I'll give him that, but it takes forever to kill anything. I wish his R would actually do damage. Even if it's just 1 damage per tick. those ticks would be great for proccing effects, but as it stands, he's simply not fun, nor rewarding enough to play for me.

And his default right click is just awful. After like stage 2 or 3 it takes forever to kill anything, and it doesn't synergize well with anything except crits as far as I can tell. And It's not even great against groups due to the tiny area of effect.

I usually like support characters, Medic was my main class in TF2, but even with 2-3 friends REX is not very fun to play for me.

In a game that's all about stacking and synergizing all kinds of crazy items, he sure doesn't feel like he has a use for most of 'em. He's literally the only survivor in the game so far that I am not having fun playing. Which is a shame.

What are you even talking about? He synergizes with the same items as any other ranged character with the exception of backup mag, that one is kinda bad if you use the spammable M2. Predatory instincts,crit,atg,attack speed etc all of them are really good on him.His seed barrage makes the first loop really easy so I don't know how you can take forever to kill anything.

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Originally posted by Senki:

Originally posted by MateAndMead:

Maybe with command, but without command... Hooo boy. He sure has survivability, I'll give him that, but it takes forever to kill anything. I wish his R would actually do damage. Even if it's just 1 damage per tick. those ticks would be great for proccing effects, but as it stands, he's simply not fun, nor rewarding enough to play for me.

And his default right click is just awful. After like stage 2 or 3 it takes forever to kill anything, and it doesn't synergize well with anything except crits as far as I can tell. And It's not even great against groups due to the tiny area of effect.

I usually like support characters, Medic was my main class in TF2, but even with 2-3 friends REX is not very fun to play for me.

In a game that's all about stacking and synergizing all kinds of crazy items, he sure doesn't feel like he has a use for most of 'em. He's literally the only survivor in the game so far that I am not having fun playing. Which is a shame.

What are you even talking about? He synergizes with the same items as any other ranged character with the exception of backup mag, that one is kinda bad if you use the spammable M2. Predatory instincs,crit,atg,attack speed etc all of them are really good on him.His seed barrage makes the first loop really easy so I don't know how you can take forever to kill anything.

Yeah you don't make any sense to me bro. I don't think we're playing the same game. *shrug*

[Senki]

Originally posted by MateAndMead:

Originally posted by Senki:

What are you even talking about? He synergizes with the same items as any other ranged character with the exception of backup mag, that one is kinda bad if you use the spammable M2. Predatory instincs,crit,atg,attack speed etc all of them are really good on him.His seed barrage makes the first loop really easy so I don't know how you can take forever to kill anything.

Yeah you don't make any sense to me bro. I don't think we're playing the same game. *shrug*

You are either taking forever to finish stages so the enemies scale way too much or you are definitely playing a different game considering Rex is one of the characters with the best damage early on.

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Originally posted by Senki:

Originally posted by MateAndMead:

Yeah you don't make any sense to me bro. I don't think we're playing the same game. *shrug*

You are either taking forever to finish stages so the enemies scale way too much or you are definitely playing a different game considering Rex is one of the characters with the best damage early on.

There it is again. "Early on."

Bro.

[Senki]

Originally posted by MateAndMead:

Originally posted by Senki:

You are either taking forever to finish stages so the enemies scale way too much or you are definitely playing a different game considering Rex is one of the characters with the best damage early on.

There it is again. "Early on."

Bro.

Early on meaning the first 4-5 stages,you were complaining about stage 2 lmao.A lot of people loop at least once at the teleporter that's why I call those stages ''early''.The only character that has peanut damage in the first 5 stages is commando.

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Originally posted by Senki:

Originally posted by MateAndMead:

There it is again. "Early on."

Bro.

Early on meaning the first 4-5 stages,you were complaining about stage 2 lmao.A lot of people loop at least once at the teleporter that's why I call those stages ''early''.

Stage 2?

Dude i never even used the number 2 even once. Bro ur trippin. Maybe you should take a nap?

[Senki]

Originally posted by MateAndMead:

Originally posted by Senki:

Early on meaning the first 4-5 stages,you were complaining about stage 2 lmao.A lot of people loop at least once at the teleporter that's why I call those stages ''early''.

Stage 2?

Dude i never even used the number 2 even once. Bro ur trippin.

At this point u're literally trolling lmao,i'm out.

[Anelyn]

Artificer beats both Rex and Captain for early stages dmg output. It doesn't even come close - both in AoE groups and single target Boss dps. And that with 0 items, throw some thingies on and you're smooth sailing first loop.

[Senki]

Originally posted by Anelyn:

Artificer beats both Rex and Captain for early stages dmg output. It doesn't even come close - both in AoE groups and single target Boss dps. And that with 0 items, throw some thingies on and you're smooth sailing first loop.

That's true. I started playing her a lot after she got all those buffs and she deals huge damage.Also if you are lucky enough to find glowing meteorite you can just fly and watch everything on the ground die,it's pretty fun.

[Dakota]

-Arti's great for just pure raw damage output
-Captain's great for ability to grab two items as soon as the stage starts and hit the tele while having great defense and damage output
-Rex is great for having built in healing with loads of spammable damage output.

Might do the math later.

[Anelyn]

I was on the fence with Artificer myself after playing a lot of Huntress / Engineer, but boy oh boy, once you realize what items you need early on to get started and what to build for, you become an unstoppable killing machine that can't really die.

Unlike most other survivors, Artificer mainly cares about the 2 bands + ukulele and movement (be it speed / sprint / jumps etc), with some defense (mainly teddy bears). Backup magazines are very good but don't go overboard, 2-3 are more than enough, also at least 1 crowbar in early game is very good (so that you 1 shot elites / golems etc with nano-bomb).

Am running her with flamebolt / nano-bomb / alternate R (800% dmg stun aoe and fly) because you don't really need more dmg early on (and after 1st loop you won't stay in melee range to use flamethrower) and the mobility, the amount of time it saves you on some maps (like dragon roost, wisp installation etc) via vertical movement is insane (and dmg ain't bad either, plus it can proc most stuff).

It's my go to toon to beat the end boss on 1st loop w/o doing void fields on monsoon.

[Senki]

Originally posted by Anelyn:

I was on the fence with Artificer myself after playing a lot of Huntress / Engineer, but boy oh boy, once you realize what items you need early on to get started and what to build for, you become an unstoppable killing machine that can't really die.

Unlike most other survivors, Artificer mainly cares about the 2 bands + ukulele and movement (be it speed / sprint / jumps etc), with some defense (mainly teddy bears). Backup magazines are very good but don't go overboard, 2-3 are more than enough, also at least 1 crowbar in early game is very good (so that you 1 shot elites / golems etc with nano-bomb).

Am running her with flamebolt / nano-bomb / alternate R (800% dmg stun aoe and fly) because you don't really need more dmg early on (and after 1st loop you won't stay in melee range to use flamethrower) and the mobility, the amount of time it saves you on some maps (like dragon roost, wisp installation etc) via vertical movement is insane (and dmg ain't bad either, plus it can proc most stuff).

It's my go to toon to beat the end boss on 1st loop w/o doing void fields on monsoon.

Yeah pretty much, I prefer her second basic attack though, It has a pretty big aoe and can hit a lot of enemies to proc items on all of them.Getting Purity on her is pretty fun too since it allows you to spam your basic attack and gives you overall lower cooldowns even if you proc items less often.

[hranm]

Royal Capacitor's are good against singular enemies, especially with Fuel Cells. Also, combo with other items and it can do damage to other creatures around it. One of my favorite ways to use it is with lots of Rusty Guillotines and Crowbars, with lots of those it can pretty much insta kill anything, even powerful bosses.

[BFishY ><>]

Like all items in this game it needs other items to truly shine. If you've never played a game where Preon is your primary fire because the CD is 0 you haven't seen the true power of this equipment. Even if the cool down is 20 seconds it's amazing to have. If it crits and shoot of a ATG it will one shot most things.