Aurelionite Logbook...

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Do you know what's the chance of drop? I have 3 57 Leaf Clover, already killed him 3 times and he didn't drop his lorebook. Any idea how many 57 Leaf Clover would reach "max" chance to him to drop it?

[[T]aKer]

From the wiki, it's 1% for regular monsters and 3% for boss events[riskofrain2.fandom.com] so in the case of aurelionite, it should be 3% chance.

As of how the Clover is calculated, it's the following:
1-( [chance of failure]^(Clover - Purity) ) | "chance of failure" is just "1-proc chance" really, just avoids writing a redundant "1-".

So with 2 Clover for example, you'd have 1-(0.97^2) = 0.0591 or 5.9%
Here's a short table with some key values:
11% => 4 Clover
26% => 10 Clover
50% => 23 Clover
75% => 46 Clover
90% => 76 Clover
99% => 153 Clover
99.9% => 227 Clover

Now I've never tested if Logbook drops are really affected by luck and I'm not willing to test to be fair, but these are the chances if they truly are ;)

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Originally posted by TaKer:

From the wiki, it's 1% for regular monsters and 3% for boss events[riskofrain2.fandom.com] so in the case of aurelionite, it should be 3% chance.

As of how the Clover is calculated, it's the following:
1-( [chance of failure]^(Clover - Purity) ) | "chance of failure" is just "1-proc chance" really, just avoids writing a redundant "1-".

So with 2 Clover for example, you'd have 1-(0.97^2) = 0.0591 or 5.9%
Here's a short table with some key values:
11% => 4 Clover
26% => 10 Clover
50% => 23 Clover
75% => 46 Clover
90% => 76 Clover
99% => 153 Clover
99.9% => 227 Clover

Now I've never tested if Logbook drops are really affected by luck and I'm not willing to test to be fair, but these are the chances if they truly are ;)

Damn, I killed it more than 9 times and no drop.
Ok... I'm gonna try to get 4 Clovers, and try 10 times.
If Clover does work, at least I'll have a fair chance.

Thank you very much.

[MsCounterMax]

The logbook drop chance is indeed affected by your luck. So if you want those logs, you best course of action is playing with command, collecting as many regenerating scap as possible and visiting bazaar every chance you get to convert all those into around 100 clovers - keep looping until you do. This is what I did to get the voidling log entry

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Originally posted by MrCounterMax:

The logbook drop chance is indeed affected by your luck. So if you want those logs, you best course of action is playing with command, collecting as many regenerating scap as possible and visiting bazaar every chance you get to convert all those into around 100 clovers - keep looping until you do. This is what I did to get the voidling log entry

Yeah, I'm gonna do that... a 2, 3 hour run to get both Aurelionite and Voidling. I don't know if I'm gonna endure 153 Stages to reach 99% but I can get 23 easily because of the legendary chests. The golden portal spawns frequently while using both Artifact of Commando and Sacrifice, so even with 50% chance I believe I'll get Aurelionite. Voidling... Yeah, 50/50... I know which 50 I'll hit =(

[MsCounterMax]

Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

Originally posted by MrCounterMax:

The logbook drop chance is indeed affected by your luck. So if you want those logs, you best course of action is playing with command, collecting as many regenerating scap as possible and visiting bazaar every chance you get to convert all those into around 100 clovers - keep looping until you do. This is what I did to get the voidling log entry

Yeah, I'm gonna do that... a 2, 3 hour run to get both Aurelionite and Voidling. I don't know if I'm gonna endure 153 Stages to reach 99% but I can get 23 easily because of the legendary chests. The golden portal spawns frequently while using both Artifact of Commando and Sacrifice, so even with 50% chance I believe I'll get Aurelionite. Voidling... Yeah, 50/50... I know which 50 I'll hit =(

I just told you that you can get as many clovers as you want if you keep stacking regenerating scrap from all the green essences of command and converting it in bazaar cauldron after each stage, you literally get reds for free because you get all the scrap back next stage - you can end up with around 100 clovers at the beginning of loop 3, no need for artifact of sacrifice or playing for 4 hours.

I am starting to see the theme of you not listening to what other people say even if there isn't an argument currently unfolding, pay attention.

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Originally posted by MrCounterMax:

Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

Yeah, I'm gonna do that... a 2, 3 hour run to get both Aurelionite and Voidling. I don't know if I'm gonna endure 153 Stages to reach 99% but I can get 23 easily because of the legendary chests. The golden portal spawns frequently while using both Artifact of Commando and Sacrifice, so even with 50% chance I believe I'll get Aurelionite. Voidling... Yeah, 50/50... I know which 50 I'll hit =(

I just told you that you can get as many clovers as you want if you keep stacking regenerating scrap from all the green essences of command and converting it in bazaar cauldron after each stage, you literally get reds for free because you get all the scrap back next stage - you can end up with around 100 clovers at the beginning of loop 3, no need for artifact of sacrifice or playing for 4 hours.

I am starting to see the theme of you not listening to what other people say even if there isn't an argument currently unfolding, pay attention.

What? Are you crazy? It's impossible to have 35 greens per stage without the Artifact of Sacrifice.

To get 100 reds before the beginning of loop 3 this means you looped twice, AKA, 15 stages (5 + 1st loot + 2nd loop). 100 reds in 15 stages means you got 7 reds per stage, 7 reds per stage = 35 Regenerating Scrap. "no need for artifact of sacrifice"? it's impossible to get 35 green items without the Artifact of Sacrifice because of the number of chests per stage. To get 35 greens you would spend around 5 stages.

[MsCounterMax]

Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

Originally posted by MrCounterMax:

I just told you that you can get as many clovers as you want if you keep stacking regenerating scrap from all the green essences of command and converting it in bazaar cauldron after each stage, you literally get reds for free because you get all the scrap back next stage - you can end up with around 100 clovers at the beginning of loop 3, no need for artifact of sacrifice or playing for 4 hours.

I am starting to see the theme of you not listening to what other people say even if there isn't an argument currently unfolding, pay attention.

What? Are you crazy? It's impossible to have 35 greens per stage without the Artifact of Sacrifice.

To get 100 reds before the beginning of loop 3 this means you looped twice, AKA, 15 stages (5 + 1st loot + 2nd loop). 100 reds in 15 stages means you got 7 reds per stage, 7 reds per stage = 35 Regenerating Scrap. "no need for artifact of sacrifice"? it's impossible to get 35 green items without the Artifact of Sacrifice because of the number of chests per stage. To get 35 greens you would spend around 5 stages.

Your calculations are in a vacuum and assume I'd stop around 35 reg scrap and won't collect more, won't do void fields, won't partially covert white items in green cauldron after getting enough for me to sustain myself, won't visit bulwark ambry (again, no artifact of sacrifice) and won't hit any mountain shrines. Are you having troubles with conceptualisation or something?

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Originally posted by MrCounterMax:

Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

What? Are you crazy? It's impossible to have 35 greens per stage without the Artifact of Sacrifice.

To get 100 reds before the beginning of loop 3 this means you looped twice, AKA, 15 stages (5 + 1st loot + 2nd loop). 100 reds in 15 stages means you got 7 reds per stage, 7 reds per stage = 35 Regenerating Scrap. "no need for artifact of sacrifice"? it's impossible to get 35 green items without the Artifact of Sacrifice because of the number of chests per stage. To get 35 greens you would spend around 5 stages.

Your calculations are in a vacuum and assume I'd stop around 35 reg scrap and won't collect more, won't do void fields, won't partially covert white items in green cauldron after getting enough for me to sustain myself, won't visit bulwark ambry (again, no artifact of sacrifice) and won't hit any mountain shrines. Are you having troubles with conceptualisation or something?

My math is fine. I want to see you get 100 reds in 15 stages by trading greens. Surely you can get one or another red by opening legendary chests if you are lucky to spawn the stages, surely you can get one more red by defeating Alloy, surely you can get 1 or 2 extra greens using mountains or trading whites...

The thing is... 100 reds in 15 stages, can you do that? Can you record a play through and reach 100 reds in 15 stages without Artifact of Sacrifice?

Yeah... I thought so.

[Ninja Zyborg]

Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

Originally posted by MrCounterMax:

Your calculations are in a vacuum and assume I'd stop around 35 reg scrap and won't collect more, won't do void fields, won't partially covert white items in green cauldron after getting enough for me to sustain myself, won't visit bulwark ambry (again, no artifact of sacrifice) and won't hit any mountain shrines. Are you having troubles with conceptualisation or something?

My math is fine. I want to see you get 100 reds in 15 stages by trading greens. Surely you can get one or another red by opening legendary chests if you are lucky to spawn the stages, surely you can get one more red by defeating Alloy, surely you can get 1 or 2 extra greens using mountains or trading whites...

The thing is... 100 reds in 15 stages, can you do that? Can you record a play through and reach 100 reds in 15 stages without Artifact of Sacrifice?

Yeah... I thought so.

assuming 3 greens/stage (2 from chests+chance of mountain, 1 from teleporter)...
stage 1- 0 reds 3 green
stage 2- 1 red 6 green +1 r
stage 3- 2 reds 9 green +1 r
stage 4- 4 reds 12 green +2 r
stage 5- 7 reds 15 green +3 r
stage 6- 10 reds 18 green +3 r
stage 7- 14 reds 21 green +4 r
stage 8- 18 reds 24 green +4 r
stage 9- 23 reds 27 green +5 r
stage 10- 29 reds 30 green +6 r
stage 11- 35 reds 33 green +6 r
stage 12- 42 reds 36 green +7 r
stage 13- 49 reds 39 green +7 r
stage 14- 57 reds 42 green +8 r
stage 15- 68 reds 45 green +9 r

answer? yes, if you turn your whites into greens, it's very doable.

[MsCounterMax]

Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

Originally posted by MrCounterMax:

Your calculations are in a vacuum and assume I'd stop around 35 reg scrap and won't collect more, won't do void fields, won't partially covert white items in green cauldron after getting enough for me to sustain myself, won't visit bulwark ambry (again, no artifact of sacrifice) and won't hit any mountain shrines. Are you having troubles with conceptualisation or something?

My math is fine. I want to see you get 100 reds in 15 stages by trading greens. Surely you can get one or another red by opening legendary chests if you are lucky to spawn the stages, surely you can get one more red by defeating Alloy, surely you can get 1 or 2 extra greens using mountains or trading whites...

The thing is... 100 reds in 15 stages, can you do that? Can you record a play through and reach 100 reds in 15 stages without Artifact of Sacrifice?

Yeah... I thought so.

Lmao, I'm gonna record it right this second then.

[Ninja Zyborg]

Originally posted by MrCounterMax:

Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

My math is fine. I want to see you get 100 reds in 15 stages by trading greens. Surely you can get one or another red by opening legendary chests if you are lucky to spawn the stages, surely you can get one more red by defeating Alloy, surely you can get 1 or 2 extra greens using mountains or trading whites...

The thing is... 100 reds in 15 stages, can you do that? Can you record a play through and reach 100 reds in 15 stages without Artifact of Sacrifice?

Yeah... I thought so.

Lmao, I'm gonna record it right this second then.

I was gonna do that... just didnt have time rn

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Originally posted by Ninja Zyborg:

Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

My math is fine. I want to see you get 100 reds in 15 stages by trading greens. Surely you can get one or another red by opening legendary chests if you are lucky to spawn the stages, surely you can get one more red by defeating Alloy, surely you can get 1 or 2 extra greens using mountains or trading whites...

The thing is... 100 reds in 15 stages, can you do that? Can you record a play through and reach 100 reds in 15 stages without Artifact of Sacrifice?

Yeah... I thought so.

assuming 3 greens/stage (2 from chests+chance of mountain, 1 from teleporter)...
stage 1- 0 reds 3 green
stage 2- 1 red 6 green +1 r
stage 3- 2 reds 9 green +1 r
stage 4- 4 reds 12 green +2 r
stage 5- 7 reds 15 green +3 r
stage 6- 10 reds 18 green +3 r
stage 7- 14 reds 21 green +4 r
stage 8- 18 reds 24 green +4 r
stage 9- 23 reds 27 green +5 r
stage 10- 29 reds 30 green +6 r
stage 11- 35 reds 33 green +6 r
stage 12- 42 reds 36 green +7 r
stage 13- 49 reds 39 green +7 r
stage 14- 57 reds 42 green +8 r
stage 15- 68 reds 45 green +9 r

answer? yes, if you turn your whites into greens, it's very doable.

You know you need 5 greens to get a red, right?
Your whole math is completely wrong.

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I did it:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2834312422


What happens an arrogant guy who can't prove his theory get together with a guy who knows nothing about the game? This:

Originally posted by MrCounterMax:

Lmao, I'm gonna record it right this second then.

Originally posted by Ninja Zyborg:

I was gonna do that... just didnt have time rn

By the way, saying is easy, I want to see you doing. We are in 2022, having an YouTube account is free, downloading any recording video program like OBS is free. You won't do it because you are too lazy to prove your theory, and you are arrogant, trying to do it will prove a failure, and this will hurt your fragile feelings.

But yeah, get together with the guy who doesn't know that requires 5 greens to get a red, and math using 3... Congratulations =)

[MsCounterMax]

Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

I did it:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2834312422


What happens an arrogant guy who can't prove his theory get together with a guy who knows nothing about the game? This:

Originally posted by MrCounterMax:

Lmao, I'm gonna record it right this second then.

Originally posted by Ninja Zyborg:

I was gonna do that... just didnt have time rn

By the way, saying is easy, I want to see you doing. We are in 2022, having an YouTube account is free, downloading any recording video program like OBS is free. You won't do it because you are too lazy to prove your theory, and you are arrogant, trying to do it will prove a failure, and this will hurt your fragile feelings.

But yeah, get together with the guy who doesn't know that requires 5 greens to get a red, and math using 3... Congratulations =)

Would you kindly stfu and wait for the video to get uploaded and processed? Have some patience. Also, can you please promise me to eat a whole shoe on camera if I get 100 clovers in 15 stages? Since it's "impossible" and all, should be a no-brainer for you.

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Originally posted by MrCounterMax:

Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:

I did it:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2834312422


What happens an arrogant guy who can't prove his theory get together with a guy who knows nothing about the game? This:




By the way, saying is easy, I want to see you doing. We are in 2022, having an YouTube account is free, downloading any recording video program like OBS is free. You won't do it because you are too lazy to prove your theory, and you are arrogant, trying to do it will prove a failure, and this will hurt your fragile feelings.

But yeah, get together with the guy who doesn't know that requires 5 greens to get a red, and math using 3... Congratulations =)

Would you kindly stfu and wait for the video to get uploaded and processed? Have some patience. Also, can you please promise me to eat a whole shoe on camera if I get 100 clovers in 15 stages? Since it's "impossible" and all, should be a no-brainer for you.

Of course not, isn't me who's assuring we can get 100 reds in 15 stages, it's your problem to prove your theory.