Defiant Gouge

[Hjv]

For those who know this item. What is the point of this item? Summoning monsters when using a shrine is useless.. Even if it generates money I feel like it is a little to useless as it is. I think it may need another effect to make it worth picking up occasionally.

Maybe more shrine uses?

[mldb88]

The only real uses I can think of off the top of my head is early game gold generation when the spawn rates can be kind of slow, or if you have something like ceremonial dagger or mask that scale hard off of how many things die. Since you can 'control' the spawns to some degree with shrine usage you can essentially get a bunch of daggers/ghosts in slight lulls in the waves, though late game yea it definitely is a bit meh since you're already pretty overwhelmed by high spawn rates. That or if you have a fireworks build going that will nuke the spawns and basically yay free money.

[Ver-Anna]

You understand what the use is exactly, you're just underestimating how much of an effect it has. It's literally just turning every shrine into a combat shrine, and as a general rule if you're not hitting combat shrines in the early game, you're losing out.

Sure it gets somewhat annoying in the mid-late game, and that's the big downside: there is no choice. It's a nice item if you get it on stage 1-2, and find a cleansing pool by the end of the 2nd loop

[Ninja Zyborg]

funny item!!!!!!!!

[goodgood]

It's the big fun activator / big balls detector

[Liro Raériyo]

This is my go to multiplayer item to stack mega hard as Acrid, you get a big stack of these things and you spawn enemies of such magnitude that mythrix blushes hard with how much damage these guys do, but an extremely high stack ensures they are elites as well so lots of guillotines means they die real fast to poison, and they can generate an entire level-up single handedly letting players reach like level 40+ without looping.

Its essentially an extremely high risk and extremely high reward item, an extra 15 levels earlier then usual gives you a ton of extra damage and survivability but without an effective way to defeat what are essentially enemies of 2-4 loops ahead of you depending on stack size its a death sentence to stack it.

plus ending stage 4 with 8+ million in cash from how much money these guys can drop can still give about half to a full level up

[Hjv]

Originally posted by Liro Raériyo:

This is my go to multiplayer item to stack mega hard as Acrid, you get a big stack of these things and you spawn enemies of such magnitude that mythrix blushes hard with how much damage these guys do, but an extremely high stack ensures they are elites as well so lots of guillotines means they die real fast to poison, and they can generate an entire level-up single handedly letting players reach like level 40+ without looping.

Its essentially an extremely high risk and extremely high reward item, an extra 15 levels earlier then usual gives you a ton of extra damage and survivability but without an effective way to defeat what are essentially enemies of 2-4 loops ahead of you depending on stack size its a death sentence to stack it.

plus ending stage 4 with 8+ million in cash from how much money these guys can drop can still give about half to a full level up

Im going to try what you said, would you say it's the same for singleplayer as well?

[Liro Raériyo]

Well since you arent playing with a group you cant have others use things like blood shrines, shrines of the mountain or shrines of chance instead to NOT spawn things, so you are going to spawn things if you want these shrines