Change the bands back

[Freddormous]

I have no idea why they change them its such a stupid decision, 3 survivors now cant even activate the bands like wtf making them the only inaccessible items in the game so dumb

[The Highwayman]

Why not just set it to the first attack after the refresh?

[Mellow]

So their reason was:

We’re hoping that this can help diversify one of our “on-hit” items to be more than just attacking enemies and hoping things activate

For commando and other chars, these bands can now only proc if you have 2x ATG.

So its even worse, you now have to hope to get 2x ATG otherwise the bands are completely wasted.

[Freddormous]

Im guessing they didnt test this because its just useless

[Whar❓]

I'm an acrid main so it doesn't affect me, but I feel really bad for all the commando and mul-t mains this update screwed over..

[TrueEvil]

The damage threshold and cooldown need to be survivor-dependent. The new mechanic feels great on Artificer and Loader, but horrible on Commando and Mul-T.

[TheFaceless6]

Friendly reminder that MUL-T has the rebar puncher and they updated the scrap launcher into a rocket launcher. Rebar crossed with some crowbars would work wonders. Commando's shotgun and grenades should also be able to proc them. Engineer's mines can proc them. Huntress Ballista. Pretty sure Rex's mortar attack can proc it.

[Reikou]

Commandos shotgun is definitely not proc'ing the new bands.

[Jimmy Hunter]

Commando's Alt R Grenade can proc it if you get the 4x Mutliplier on the explosion. Not great, but atleast he doesn't get shafted like Acrid.

[UbrokeMyGrill?]

Bands are meant to be a burst damage option now. They were way too strong proccing on default attacks with no cooldown.

[Reikou]

An internal cooldown on their proc rate would accomplish that. Making it so that some survivors can NEVER proc the band is a problem.

[Palmon]

A few ATG missiles can trigger the bands if they proc. Crowbars can also boost some skills high enough to proc, but becomes useless when enemies are no longer at full health.

Here's a quick list of what abilities can trigger the new bands without the aid of specific items.

Commando: Frag Grenade, but only to enemies in the center of the blast.
MUL-T: Rebar Puncher.
Huntress: Ballista.
REX: Seed Barrage and Bramble Volley.
Acrid: Final hit of Vicious Wounds, Frenzied Leap, and Ravenous Bite on low health enemies.
Engineer: Thermal Harpoons, Spider Mines, and Pressure Mines if allowed to fully arm.
Artificer: Nano-bomb, Nano-spear, and Ion surge
Loader: Charge Gauntlet, Thunder Gauntlet
Mercenary: Rising Thunder

[Zeddy]

You can proc them with equipment. Royal Capacitor is now even more broken than previously.

I personally like the new bands. Pretty great buff for Arti.

Merc can proc them without uppercut by first inflicting expose.

[Saph]

Bands were busted anyway. There's a reason people put them so high on their tier lists and it's not because they were balanced.

[phenir]

Originally posted by Blue:

A few ATG missiles can trigger the bands if they proc. Crowbars can also boost some skills high enough to proc, but becomes useless when enemies are no longer at full health.

Here's a quick list of what abilities can trigger the new bands without the aid of specific items.

Commando: Frag Grenade, but only to enemies in the center of the blast.
MUL-T: Rebar Puncher.
Huntress: Ballista.
REX: Seed Barrage and Bramble Volley.
Acrid: Final hit of Vicious Wounds, Frenzied Leap, and Ravenous Bite on low health enemies.
Engineer: Thermal Harpoons, Spider Mines, and Pressure Mines if allowed to fully arm.
Artificer: Nano-bomb, Nano-spear, and Ion surge
Loader: Charge Gauntlet, Thunder Gauntlet
Mercenary: Rising Thunder

Add to mercenary that expose damage is taken into account for this. So technically any attack by merc can trigger them as long as the enemy is exposed.

[Freddormous]

Originally posted by Saph:

Bands were busted anyway. There's a reason people put them so high on their tier lists and it's not because they were balanced. :2016bee:

Bands should be relatively high they are a good green item they shouldnt be un usable on certain characters not to mention this nerf to them weakens the 54 leaf clover dreastically