Acrid: Poison VS Blight

[DongSmasher]

What do you think is better? I personaly think it's the poison due to the scaling late game with the super tanky enemies, after giving it 4 seconds of thought.

[Sinou]

Ever since artifacts dropped, I haven't really played any regular acrid runs, only runs with the full artifact list in preparation for some unlock like in the first one - and I gotta say, Blight is super useful early on, because then just running away, shooting your R and M2 makes dealing with enemies early on a cinch - so much so that I feel the most comfortable with acrid as my random starting survivor. But from what I can read about the mechanics, I do feel like regular poison > blight for scaling enemies

[DongSmasher]

I mean, i am a horrible acrid, i dont understand how people play him. I hit and run with poison, but i just feel so useless

[SkipMasterB]

Blight scales better with Acrid's damage where Poison scales better with enemy HP. So which one is better depends on the situation. If you're OP relative to enemies, blight will be more powerful (but also potentially useless, if you're killing everything so quickly anyway).

I've been using Blight lately, and it being lethal early on is extremely useful. But with Poison making tanky bosses a lot easier to deal with, it's probably overall the better choice.

[Liro Raériyo]

i feel like poison is better, if only because it can feel like a get out of hell free card against bosses and makes it a bit more feasible to brute force through bosses.

[GeoCrusader]

It depends on what items you get, poison will always be about the same but blight has the potential to be better, if you get items that reduce cooldowns or give multipul skill charges you can heavily stack blight which you cant do with poison and the damage will be much better, I got the brain stalk on acrid with blight and in the late game the blight stacks were killing bosses in less than 10 seconds.

[kameltoes]

I'm a Acrid/Rex main. From my experience of using every combination of Acrid's abilities, The best experience I've found so far is Poison > Blight. Ravenous Bight > Neurotoxin. And finally Caustic Leap > Frenzied Leap.

It took awhile to come around to the Ravenous Bight > Neurotoxin way of playing. But after some testing. It's a no brainer in MP. Now if you're playing SP.... You might wanna use Neurotoxin.

[DongSmasher]

Thank you, Epstein's Killer

[SolusiRadikal]

for me it's definetly blight if i use item artifact since you can create one lizard outbreak situation by just holding m2 + r with brainstalks at HAHA level.

[Juno]

Originally posted by doomguy dies in doom eternal:

What do you think is better?

Saying which one is better is hard, but I had more fun with blight. Here's my advice:
Playing alone? Blight.
Playing with others? Poison.

Poison not being able to kill enemies outright is just annoying, and I'd still take the probably worse option against high HP targets just to kill those damn wisps.

[Brohdakai]

Personally, from what I've play-tested with Acrid I like Poison better and this is my reasoning. Poison lasts long enough to put an enemy at 1 HP (usually) guaranteed because it does 10% of the monsters health in DPS; but it cannot kill. It's inability to kill can be supplemented later with Bleed effects or any other DoT. While Blight does have the ability to kill enemies, it only does 60% of your damage as DPS, which while looks great at first it has dropoff as the difficulty progresses and enemies gain more HP. A boss that has 1,000,000 health will take 999,999 damage in 10 seconds and combined with a Guillotine, you have a very effective kill method for Elites. Sure, Blight can stack but it deteriorates quickly with such a short duration. If your own damage is 100, then it is only burning for 60 DPS per stack and requires quite a few Backup Magazines to even hit a reasonable amount of killable DPS. Whereas, my Poison example is dealing 100,000 per tick of damage when the enemy has 1,000,000 HP.

[tomdevin]

Originally posted by MrCrouton:

Personally, from what I've play-tested with Acrid I like Poison better and this is my reasoning. Poison lasts long enough to put an enemy at 1 HP (usually) guaranteed because it does 10% of the monsters health in DPS; but it cannot kill. It's inability to kill can be supplemented later with Bleed effects or any other DoT. While Blight does have the ability to kill enemies, it only does 60% of your damage as DPS, which while looks great at first it has dropoff as the difficulty progresses and enemies gain more HP. A boss that has 1,000,000 health will take 999,999 damage in 10 seconds and combined with a Guillotine, you have a very effective kill method for Elites. Sure, Blight can stack but it deteriorates quickly with such a short duration. If your own damage is 100, then it is only burning for 60 DPS per stack and requires quite a few Backup Magazines to even hit a reasonable amount of killable DPS. Whereas, my Poison example is dealing 100,000 per tick of damage when the enemy has 1,000,000 HP.

No. Poison lasts 10 seconds and does 10% of total HP. Not 10% per second, but 10% throughout those 10 seconds. Meaning a 1.000.000hp mob would take 100.000 damage, not 999.999. I think it's pretty obvious when poisoning a boss and sitting around for 10 seconds isn't nearly enough to kill him. Otherwise he'd be absolutely broken.

[Autism Powered Roomba]

Originally posted by http://imgur.com/a/1HZ5P⸻⸻⸻⸻:

I mean, i am a horrible acrid, i dont understand how people play him. I hit and run with poison, but i just feel so useless

all you gotta do is this
epidemic, spit, jump, maul the sh!t outta the enemy

[Ittrix]

This thread got necro'd, but it looks like it could benefit from a better explanation about how poison works. Could go super in depth, but I'll just mention that there's actually two entirely different formulas poison can use to determine the damage it does, and it picks whichever is higher.

One of them is the same as the flavor-text: 10% of the enemies' max HP over the duration.
The other one is actually based on Acrid's base damage. It does about 1000% of his base damage (which is slightly higher) over the duration.

This is why poison can whittle a beetle down to 1 HP within a few seconds, but against something like a vagrant will still take 100 seconds to whittle down to 1 HP. 1000% base damage against the beetle is bigger than 10% of 80 HP, but against a leveled up boss with something like 10000 HP 10% is a lot more than 1000% of 15. If you were to putter around long enough without leveling, a beetle would eventually get enough HP that poison would use the max HP formula, and if you were to level up real fast it would use the base damage formula on a boss.


So, blight doesn't even have the advantage on that front, really. They're both based around base damage, and poison can potentially be based around max HP if it's higher that way. Blight's advantages are that it can stack and that it can kill by itself. Does this make it better? Uhhh. I don't get paid enough to give an opinion on that.
Poison though. Poison is better. ESPECIALLY in multiplayer.