Interstellar Desk Plant is really gonna need a buff

[Juno]

So, I had 2 bustling fungus and one interstellar desk plant. My bustle fungus healed for more.

Sure it's not like your actively hindered by the item, but it seems like a really lackluster red.

The issues:
- Requires you to be within it's radius for an extended amount of time
- Doesn't really even heal for that much
- The radius is tiiiiny
- Situational (killing an enemy that's in a good spot to camp)
- It's a red.

You could say the same exact thing as everything above for the Bustling Fungus, but Bustle Fung is a white item instead. Also, bustle fung is less situational, as you can control when and where. You can only do that to an extent with IDP.

The radius needs to naturally be bigger, or rather than being AOE healing it should be a quick burst heal. If the AOE is too small, then it's just a bustling fungus. But if you go the quick burst route it's just a better monster tooth. I think the AOE should be A LOT bigger, but have healing most effective in the center.

I think all the items from this update were a bit lackluster except for Focused Convergence, but this really shines out.

[Sergeant_Braken]

Yeah, IDP is very underwhelming for a red. At least it's not potentially harmful to a run, like Vultures, though.

CFis の投稿を引用：

Yeah, is trash just like in RoR1, I as hopping for Scepter, easily the most fun and interesting red

I so want to see the Scepter return. I completely agree.

[Winblows]

maybe it could like drop a plant that builds up healing and if you run by and wait a small moment it would give you a bigger heal chunk but then you have to wait for it to build up again or get wimpy little heals but you would go off instead of just standing there, kinda like fungus turned into a use item heal like healing fruit, it seems more usable like that to me

[Juno]

REIcist engineer の投稿を引用：

maybe it could like drop a plant that builds up healing and if you run by and wait a small moment it would give you a bigger heal chunk but then you have to wait for it to build up again or get wimpy little heals but you would go off instead of just standing there, kinda like fungus turned into a use item heal like healing fruit, it seems more usable like that to me

I think that could be interesting. I think something similar to Monster Tooths healing could work, just more effective. Maybe you have to go and pick it up, and then it gives you a ramping heal similar to Fresh Meat.

[3735943886]

This item is GREEN at best. Death Mark should be RED if you ask me.

[ninjaguyDan]

On the upside, when you're doing Void Fields and the monsters get desk plant, you probably have a good run coming. Unless your reward is also desk plant.

[Jimmy Hunter]

3735943886 の投稿を引用：

This item is GREEN at best. Death Mark should be RED if you ask me.

Honestly as a Green it would need some dialing back since it's more reliable healing than say, Leech Seed healing 1 per hit and requires low damage/high attack speed and Scythe requiring big numbers or high crit chance for it to be a reasonable source.

[kameltoes]

Jimmy Hunter の投稿を引用：

3735943886 の投稿を引用：

This item is GREEN at best. Death Mark should be RED if you ask me.

Honestly as a Green it would need some dialing back since it's more reliable healing than say, Leech Seed healing 1 per hit and requires low damage/high attack speed and Scythe requiring big numbers or high crit chance for it to be a reasonable source.

Bungus, a white item, is far better in the long run than the desk plant.

[Boksha]

Epstein's Killer の投稿を引用：

Bungus, a white item, is far better in the long run than the desk plant.

Beyond the first 5 stages or so, you're never, ever going to stand still long enough to activate Fungus, so regardless of how many stacks of it you have, it's going to be 0% healing vs. 5% healing. Even if Desk Plant is crap, it's still literally infinitely better than Fungus (not counting Engineer here). ESPECIALLY in the long run.

Basically how to use these items:
Desk Plant: kill things. You get healed.
Fungus: stand still. You die.

Note how Desk Plant does not involve you going back to plants, or camping near a plant. That's not the point. Plants spawn constantly as you're killing things (which you're constantly, always doing; unless there are no enemies, you're literally never not killing things), so even if you're moving, you're being healed constantly. And it's a percentage heal, so even at high max HP it's significant.

If anything, the biggest problem with the Desk Plant is the fact that 95% of deaths in the game are due to insta-kills from enemies that score multiple hits with one attack, or insta-kills becaue shields were counted as max-HP. Not because you couldn't out-heal slowly stacking damage. Put a bit differently, healing in general is crap, so probably doesn't have a place among legendary items (unless it's an item that turns healing back into damage)

[kameltoes]

Boksha の投稿を引用：

Epstein's Killer の投稿を引用：

Bungus, a white item, is far better in the long run than the desk plant.

Beyond the first 5 stages or so, you're never, ever going to stand still long enough to activate Fungus, so regardless of how many stacks of it you have, it's going to be 0% healing vs. 5% healing. Even if Desk Plant is crap, it's still literally infinitely better than Fungus (not counting Engineer here). ESPECIALLY in the long run.

Basically how to use these items:
Desk Plant: kill things. You get healed.
Fungus: stand still. You die.

Note how Desk Plant does not involve you going back to plants, or camping near a plant. That's not the point. Plants spawn constantly as you're killing things (which you're constantly, always doing; unless there are no enemies, you're literally never not killing things), so even if you're moving, you're being healed constantly. And it's a percentage heal, so even at high max HP it's significant.

If anything, the biggest problem with the Desk Plant is the fact that 95% of deaths in the game are due to insta-kills from enemies that score multiple hits with one attack, or insta-kills becaue shields were counted as max-HP. Not because you couldn't out-heal slowly stacking damage. Put a bit differently, healing in general is crap, so probably doesn't have a place among legendary items (unless it's an item that turns healing back into damage)

Regardless... The desk plant serves only to corrupt the pool of red items

[Juno]

why the hell did you guys necropost on my old thread

[Aachen]

“Desk plant” ....

I think “xeno-aloe?”

IDP ought negate burns.

[kameltoes]

Bingo motel cheeseburger with a side of aircraft noise and I'll be Gary Indiana