Red Whip and Rose Buckler?

[Vespero]

Is it just me or do they not belong in their rarity class? I find them to be mostly useless and a real let-down when I open a big chest. Well, on the one hand it's a waste of a Uncommon item roll, on the other hand if they were Common, I'd get them even more often...

Even playing characters that can sprint and attack at the same time, I don't feel that sprinting offers enough directional and turning options to make for a more effective combat strategy than hiding behind terrain (especially considering most bosses have perfect targeting speed and can't be dodged without cover).

As for the Red Whip... I don't really know that I have a need for out-of-combat movement speed, and Goat Hoof/Energy Drink already provide the same benefit, work in-combat, and are much more common.

Am I missing something?

[OkashiYujin]

Well i kinda understand what you talking about. Because in common item roll we have teddy bear which better than rose buckler too. You see the red whip there because how many percent it increase your movement speed. After all you rarely will get hit if you know how to move around. Remember time is your enemy too in this game.

[Netsa]

Red Whip buffs your movement speed more than the other items do, and is ideal for moving around the field and getting loot in the fastest amount of time. It belongs in its tier.

Teddy Bear is not better than Rose Buckler and I don't know why Buckler has such a negative reputation. Rose Buckler may not help in the middle of a firefight (unless you're Huntress), but if you're trying to get away from a fight or reposition yourself, then it's great. For example, if you have Transcendence, or if you've gotten tagged by a high-damage attack and need to back off, Buckler can save your life. Bears give a chance to negate damage, Buckler reduces all damage taken. If you were trying to get away from a boss or a mob and survived with low HP, and you had a Buckler on, you have it to thank.

The way you guys are talking, it's like you only play Mul-T, you only ever use his dash for a sprint, and you always find multiple life leech items in every run.

[Vespero]

I pretty much exclusively play Huntress, I just don't find Sprinting when enemies are around to be more effective than using her teleport to get behind cover. I've never noticed the Rose Buckler feeling like it did anything.

[Z_Raven]

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I pretty much exclusively play Huntress, I just don't find Sprinting when enemies are around to be more effective than using her teleport to get behind cover. I've never noticed the Rose Buckler feeling like it did anything.

She's probably the worse character to use the buckler on. You said it best, she teleports a lot. Not useless but less effective.

[Dralek]

The Buckler probably works best on the Merc since he can also sprint and melee. Probably best on him or Mul-T since his dash considers him to be in sprinting mode.

[Netsa]

Why play behind cover if you don't have to? Unless there's Titans or low-health Vagrants on the field, cover is more dangerous since it leaves you open to backstabs.

Edit: Teleport has a cooldown unless you have the red item that gives it multiple charges. You can't rely entirely on it for your mobility.

[Vespero]

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Vespero. eredeti hozzászólása:

I pretty much exclusively play Huntress, I just don't find Sprinting when enemies are around to be more effective than using her teleport to get behind cover. I've never noticed the Rose Buckler feeling like it did anything.

She's probably the worse character to use the buckler on. You said it best, she teleports a lot. Not useless but less effective.

Very true, but at the same time she's one of what... two characters that can attack while sprinting? And it's not good on Mercenary either unless you fight by swiping at enemies while running past them.

[Underscorecow]

buckler is insanely good on huntress along with ability dependent playstyles (like artificer) since you can sprint while waiting for cooldowns.


Also good with hit and run tactics, making the run part alot easier.

[Jerubius]

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I pretty much exclusively play Huntress, I just don't find Sprinting when enemies are around to be more effective than using her teleport to get behind cover. I've never noticed the Rose Buckler feeling like it did anything.

Playing like that just hurts your dps so much as huntress though. Just stack all the bucklers and move speed bonuses you can, and learn to circle strafe things. What little does hit you will be inconsequential because of the bucklers. Use your teleport to save yourself from falling damage, bridging gaps or escape encirclement.

[Boboscus]

Had a couple of bucklers on Huntress yesterday, tied with plenty of soldier's syringes and other run speed buffs, I kept sprinting around everyone while shooting and it was my best game, even defeated the energy worm for the first time.