Average time for each world?

[จอห์นสัน]

What is the average time I should take to complete 1 world? What should my goal be when I first spawn? Farm all boxes or just active the teleporter.

Need some guide for general game knowledge since I always died on stage 7-8 in medium difficulty.

[shrimping]

i wouldn't spend any more than 5-10 minutes on each world. look for the tele as soon as possible and chests along the way. maybe grab 2-3 items before attempting the boss and after you kill it loot any remaining chests near the area but don't spend too much time all over the map looking for them

[Necko]

Average time varies from game to game and from map to map. Aim for somewhere between 4 to 8 minutes for the first 4 maps. If you spend a while on one map, try to make up some time on the next one or two. If you do go long, make sure it's worth your while.

I think the average number of items for the first map is 5. If I take 6-8 minutes, I make sure I'm getting 6-10 items and/or good items. Sometimes it just isn't worth it and I'll restart.

The first thing you should do on spawn is take a look for shrines of blood. They give you money in exchange for a temporary health hit. Getting money asap is very important.

The next best altar would be Shines of combat. They summon a few mobs. I generally only hit these shrines in the first minute of a stage for quick cash. Later than that and mobs should be spawning enough to keep you going.

If you don't spot either of them, move around. Try to spot the teleporter and boxes. Try to discern the most efficient way to get around the map while grabbing loot.

Somewhere around stage 5-7, you're better off running straight for the teleporter. Only kill things that are going to be a problem when you pop the teleporter. If your dps feels low, try to grab what you can along the way. The longer you take, the tougher it's going to get.

In my opinion, shrines of chance are a trap. I hit them once, maybe twice. If you are going to hit them, you're better off doing it when the round is over, but don't run half way across the zone for it.

Shrines of the mountain are also, more often than not, a trap. The time spent killing two bosses early on usually doesn't really pay off. It can though, and I'm a sucker for those things.

Time is not your friend. It's really about getting the most amount of loot in the shortest amount of time.

[robruckus65]

I always get every single item on each map. They are worth far more to you than going to the next map like 1 or 2 minutes sooner.

[Sotanaht]

Originally posted by robruckus65:

I always get every single item on each map. They are worth far more to you than going to the next map like 1 or 2 minutes sooner.

This is very very wrong. Later maps have more and denser items, wasting too much time often leads to death on area 3 or early in area 4.

Shoot for around 5 minutes each for the first two levels, you can bump it up around 8 minutes on level 3 and maybe 10 on level 4, still gets you looping before the 30 minute mark. When a game hits 30 minutes in area 3 you are pretty much ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Xilo The Odd]

process should typically be, find portal location, open as many chests within 3 mins or so as far away from the portal, 3 mins pass run towards portal opening anything you find of value along the way and activate portal. complete event open nearby stuff to portal for at the very most 1 min, then move on. any gold you didnt spend turns into levels boosting your attack power.

this is a much faster rate of speed and should be continued for the first loop, 2nd loop grab everything you can off each map.

this method has never steered me wrong.

[NekoValkyrie]

In my opinion its really whatever you find works tho. I don't know what people like to do during solo but with my bud we usually scan for about 90% of items on the map if not more and take our time. Rushing screws us over WAY more then taking our time.

But perhaps our item luck and coordination just make it easier for us. I don't think there is an average, or a prime equation that will work. Just gotta find your groove in the game :)

[Cacomistle]

Originally posted by Necko:

Average time varies from game to game and from map to map. Aim for somewhere between 4 to 8 minutes for the first 4 maps. If you spend a while on one map, try to make up some time on the next one or two. If you do go long, make sure it's worth your while.

I think the average number of items for the first map is 5. If I take 6-8 minutes, I make sure I'm getting 6-10 items and/or good items. Sometimes it just isn't worth it and I'll restart.

The first thing you should do on spawn is take a look for shrines of blood. They give you money in exchange for a temporary health hit. Getting money asap is very important.

The next best altar would be Shines of combat. They summon a few mobs. I generally only hit these shrines in the first minute of a stage for quick cash. Later than that and mobs should be spawning enough to keep you going.

If you don't spot either of them, move around. Try to spot the teleporter and boxes. Try to discern the most efficient way to get around the map while grabbing loot.

Somewhere around stage 5-7, you're better off running straight for the teleporter. Only kill things that are going to be a problem when you pop the teleporter. If your dps feels low, try to grab what you can along the way. The longer you take, the tougher it's going to get.

In my opinion, shrines of chance are a trap. I hit them once, maybe twice. If you are going to hit them, you're better off doing it when the round is over, but don't run half way across the zone for it.

Shrines of the mountain are also, more often than not, a trap. The time spent killing two bosses early on usually doesn't really pay off. It can though, and I'm a sucker for those things.

Time is not your friend. It's really about getting the most amount of loot in the shortest amount of time.

I think I started doing a lot better when I came to the realization that shrines of chance are traps. I usually hit them at least once cause the first one is cheap, and if I'm gonna hit the teleporter late I'll hit them twice. Only hit them more than that if you're certain you're gonna have leftover money, usually only happens in the late stages.

Shrines of mountain depend on character. I think they're good for like artificer and engineer, because both of them are in my experience really good at taking out bosses early. Especially engineer if you get a fungus, as if you can prevent them from killing your turrets you have the damage for shrine even without items and can easily gain health back. Artificer doesn't need items to do it at all but its possible to get overwhelmed cause if you start losing hp its dangerous to flamethrower.

But I usually avoid them on say commando. Mid game they're usually easier to go for, but I've lost a couple runs to blazing bosses on mountain shrines (to be fair before they got nerfed), and usually there's enough enemies to kill that you don't need the money, so its only worth a single green item.

The rest of this I think is pretty good advice. I think ideally you get exactly enough money for all the chests you can easily pick up, and 1 or maybe 2 ticks of each shrine of chance. But that's not easy to predict. If you get movespeed early you can go for further chests easily. But what you put is a pretty good baseline and has been in my experience about what I would expect.

Also I think number of items to go for slightly depends on character. I go for all the items on commando cause he scales almost only of items. Whereas artificer has more damage without them and is really slow, which makes it hard to go for every item on the map.

[Neon Black Interactive]

It really depends on the stage and the character you're playing as well as the difficulty. When you know how to clear the stages distant roost is about equal to titanic planes, and aquaduct is about equal to wetland aspect.

I play almost exclusively Huntress on monsoon difficulty and the times I shoot for are as follows:

Stage 1: I know very solid routes and strategies for both of these stages on huntress and I shoot to clear stage 1 and get every item by 5:00

Stage 2: Wetland aspect is fairly straight forward, I aim to clear it and get all or almost all of the items by 12:00. Aquaduct is normally the same deal however if I can manage to spot both switches by the time to stage is clear I will a lot another 2 minutes to get dual bands because of the way they synergize.

Stage 3: Regardless of whether I went and opened the secret chamber on aquaduct or not I aim to finish this stage by 20:00. Remember that if you got some extra time and gold and the fan spawned to check the upper ledge for chests. I'm fairly sure I rarely get every item on this stage, I just get as much as I can and leave by 20:00.

Stage 4: On stage 4 you need to decide whether or not your farming for the legendary chest. If the answer is no this stage should be cleared by 28:00. I however always open the legendary chest and as much other stuff as possible. If one legendary spawned I normally leave this stage at about 35:00. If two spawned however I normally leave at around 40:00. This stage for me tends to be the make or break point of the run. Either the contents of the legendary chests break open the run or end up being complete duds that are gonna end the run. I've also found however that on monsoon difficulty you HAVE to open the legendary chest otherwise, unless you found an insane printer, you're gonna die anyway.

Stage 5: From this point on the run is nearly decided. Either you have a strong build that can snowball out of control or you have a mediocre build that's not gonna output enough damage and eventually wither away.

[Necko]

I should add, I play almost exclusively monsoon commando. I believe my times are slightly longer than Urilbedamned's times give or take.

[Neon Black Interactive]

Originally posted by Necko:

I should add, I play almost exclusively monsoon commando. I believe my times are slightly longer than Urilbedamned's times give or take.

To be fair huntress has much stronger mobility than commando does, so commandos clear times are bound to be slower.

[Mr. Stimpson]

Originally posted by NekoValkyrie:

In my opinion its really whatever you find works tho. I don't know what people like to do during solo but with my bud we usually scan for about 90% of items on the map if not more and take our time. Rushing screws us over WAY more then taking our time.

But perhaps our item luck and coordination just make it easier for us. I don't think there is an average, or a prime equation that will work. Just gotta find your groove in the game :)

I agree 100%.

Later on though, once you delete things almost instantly, rushing the teleporter to delete the boss is probably your safest route if you're looking to get the 20+ level achievement.

[Cacomistle]

Originally posted by Urilbedamned:

Originally posted by Necko:

I should add, I play almost exclusively monsoon commando. I believe my times are slightly longer than Urilbedamned's times give or take.

To be fair huntress has much stronger mobility than commando does, so commandos clear times are bound to be slower.

Commando also is reliant on items for damage. Which makes his early game pretty slow. If you clear stage 4 5 minutes later than huntress, you're honestly probably still out-damaging her. From there usually you've picked up enough mobility that she won't be significantly outdoing you anymore in terms of picking up items either.

[robruckus65]

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

Originally posted by robruckus65:

I always get every single item on each map. They are worth far more to you than going to the next map like 1 or 2 minutes sooner.

This is very very wrong. Later maps have more and denser items, wasting too much time often leads to death on area 3 or early in area 4.

Shoot for around 5 minutes each for the first two levels, you can bump it up around 8 minutes on level 3 and maybe 10 on level 4, still gets you looping before the 30 minute mark. When a game hits 30 minutes in area 3 you are pretty much ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Meh not really even taking your time on every stage getting all of the items you usually make it through a loop in 30-45 minutes. Once you get used to the maps it gets pretty easy to run to each spot and get all the items first map is the slowest because of the lack of funds off the rip. An extra minute or 2 really isnt goign to make or break the run but getting a couple good items early can.

[Cacomistle]

Originally posted by robruckus65:

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

This is very very wrong. Later maps have more and denser items, wasting too much time often leads to death on area 3 or early in area 4.

Shoot for around 5 minutes each for the first two levels, you can bump it up around 8 minutes on level 3 and maybe 10 on level 4, still gets you looping before the 30 minute mark. When a game hits 30 minutes in area 3 you are pretty much ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Meh not really even taking your time on every stage getting all of the items you usually make it through a loop in 30-45 minutes. Once you get used to the maps it gets pretty easy to run to each spot and get all the items first map is the slowest because of the lack of funds off the rip. An extra minute or 2 really isnt goign to make or break the run but getting a couple good items early can.

To add onto this, picking up every item in the first 3 stages will usually gets me out of area 3 around 20 minutes or so, 25 at most. Not 30. If you spend 2 extra minutes per stage for 2 items, you're up 6 items and probably like 3 higher difficulties or so, idk exactly. At this tradeoff depending on the items you get, it can be entirely worth it. For example if you pick up a red, or even just picking up movement speed might let you pick up all the items next stage without taking any longer, or picking up something like a fungus on engineer. The game is more about getting a broken build than it is rushing through the difficulties, and usually if you're picking up all the items you can manage to not fall too far behind.

[จอห์นสัน]

Thankyou very much for the advice guys, I have another question. Is it worth farming gold chest on the hell stage? And if there are plenty of spawned gold chest, is it worth to just stay and farm all of them?