DMC 2 is it really that "bad"

[J.G.C.G.]

I'm close to finishing the first game and even though I suck I'm enjoying myself. I keep seeing all these comments sprinkled around about DMC 2 being "bad".

Can someone give me a true opinion about it that would help a gal like me?

[Director Bison]

Personally I'd say plenty of people can over react to how "Awful" DMC2 is, but I suppose it depends on ones personal tolerance.

DMC2 was very rushed into production by Capcom after DMC1 was such a success, but they rushed it so quickly that they didn't get a single member of the DMC1 team to work on DMC2. So while DMC2 shares similarities to DMC1 they're really only skin deep, and the game doesn't feel anywhere close the quality of DMC1.

It's a lesser game in every aspect, the combat isn't as good, the enemies aren't as good, the level design isn't as good, the bosses aren't as good, it's all mediocre. Pretty much the only part of the game that's above average is the art design.

There is potential enjoyment to be found in DMC2 if you as the player go out of your way to try and make the gameplay more interesting, but the game itself does nothing to teach you how to play it competently, and it does nothing to stop you from spamming ranged attacks from across the room the entire game, and since spamming guns is such an easy tactic that's how most people play the game, even if it's a boring way to play the game.

That's not the players fault, it's the games fault for not encouraging a more exciting play style.

Give DMC2 a chance to see if it interests you, but if you end up not liking it, know that DMC3 has absolutely zero of these problems, and it's one of the best games ever made.

[Electric Cupcake]

DMC2 has cool level designs, but the levels are large and somewhat empty.
DMC2 has cool enemy designs, but the AI and combat mechanics are TERRIBLE. Most boss fights can be won by just hanging back and shooting, or jumping and shooting until premature arthritis sets in.

Heihachi's flamboyantly gay brother is probably the best part.

[Igris]

Yup. It barely has anything good. Dante is just a quiet character with 0 emotions and lacks his iconic personality.

Story is....something. it honestly makes no sense and pretty much sucks.

Combat is pretty bad, just level up your pistols and you will pretty much shred anything in your way. Now this wouldn't really be a problem if the swords weren't awful to use.

Trish is the only fun character to play, but you gotta beat game first to unlock hard more then beat it on hard to unlock her if I remember right.

[J.G.C.G.]

Originally posted by Director Bison:

Personally I'd say plenty of people can over react to how "Awful" DMC2 is, but I suppose it depends on ones personal tolerance.

DMC2 was very rushed into production by Capcom after DMC1 was such a success, but they rushed it so quickly that they didn't get a single member of the DMC1 team to work on DMC2. So while DMC2 shares similarities to DMC1 they're really only skin deep, and the game doesn't feel anywhere close the quality of DMC1.

It's a lesser game in every aspect, the combat isn't as good, the enemies aren't as good, the level design isn't as good, the bosses aren't as good, it's all mediocre. Pretty much the only part of the game that's above average is the art design.

There is potential enjoyment to be found in DMC2 if you as the player go out of your way to try and make the gameplay more interesting, but the game itself does nothing to teach you how to play it competently, and it does nothing to stop you from spamming ranged attacks from across the room the entire game, and since spamming guns is such an easy tactic that's how most people play the game, even if it's a boring way to play the game.

That's not the players fault, it's the games fault for not encouraging a more exciting play style.

Give DMC2 a chance to see if it interests you, but if you end up not liking it, know that DMC3 has absolutely zero of these problems, and it's one of the best games ever made.

It sounds like it's not bad it's just a downgrade compared to the first game

[OST]

This guide could potentially be useful for you, though I finished my playthrough before it came out, so I have no personal experience using it: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2941112591

IIRC for me personally, the low point was around mission 5. Not saying it turns into a great game afterward but I think it doesn't sink that low again.

I still recommend playing DMC3 first, it's excellent and chronologically the first game anyway.

[J.G.C.G.]

Originally posted by OST:

This guide could potentially be useful for you, though I finished my playthrough before it came out, so I have no personal experience using it: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2941112591

IIRC for me personally, the low point was around mission 5. Not saying it turns into a great game afterward but I think it doesn't sink that low again.

I still recommend playing DMC3 first, it's excellent and chronologically the first game anyway.

I'm almost finished with the first game. I'm probably just gonna go with the release order.

[Electric Cupcake]

Originally posted by Mr G:

Originally posted by OST:

This guide could potentially be useful for you, though I finished my playthrough before it came out, so I have no personal experience using it: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2941112591

IIRC for me personally, the low point was around mission 5. Not saying it turns into a great game afterward but I think it doesn't sink that low again.

I still recommend playing DMC3 first, it's excellent and chronologically the first game anyway.

I'm almost finished with the first game. I'm probably just gonna go with the release order.

Don't skip the light novels and anime. Important deets are filled in.

[Director Bison]

Originally posted by Mr G:

I'm almost finished with the first game. I'm probably just gonna go with the release order.

Well if there is anything you should know about DMC2's story it's that Lucia is the actual protagonist, her half of the game contains the actual plot. Where Dante is sort of just there out of obligation. Lucia's part is shorter too, she has 13 missions, were Dante has 18.

[Jimelu]

The game isn't bad in the sense that it's glitchy, unplayble or unfinished, it's bad in the sense that it's too damn boring.

[J.G.C.G.]

Originally posted by DJ Soul:

The game isn't bad in the sense that it's glitchy, unplayble or unfinished, it's bad in the sense that it's too damn boring.

This is what I was looking for

[BoogtehWoog]

It is that bad. I'm about to beat it. The game is irredeemable. "Oh, just give it a chance. Is it really that bad? It couldn't be." It is that bad and it doesn't deserve a chance.

[J.G.C.G.]

Originally posted by BoogtehWoog:

It is that bad. I'm about to beat it. The game is irredeemable. "Oh, just give it a chance. Is it really that bad? It couldn't be." It is that bad and it doesn't deserve a chance.

Oh ♥♥♥♥. Go into detail please

[BoogtehWoog]

There's a lot of problems, but here goes:

You know how the camera could be wonky 10% of the time in DMC1? Well, try it being wonky far more in DMC2. Couple that with the most floaty lock-on imaginable and it just makes combat a massive annoyance.

The enemies are utterly forgettable. They are brain dead on top of it. And you really have no reason to care about what attacks you do. It just doesn't really matter. You don't have to learn them the way you did with DMC1.

The bosses are terrible. And I truly mean terrible. Some rank among the absolute worst bosses I've ever faced in gaming, like the Infested Chopper, Trismagia, and Jokatgulm. They are utterly one-dimensional, unsatisfying to battle, and needlessly tanky.

The levels are often way too large and empty for what they are. It's tedious to go through them even if they aren't overly long even at their largest. Just tons of space that went unused.

The forced platforming sections are even worse than they were in DMC1 due to the camera being worse than it was there.

The sad thing is that these are all things you really have to experience for yourself to appreciate how bad they are. It doesn't sound as bad as I say it is, I bet. And if you watch videos, you might even think "Oh, how is this that bad?" But it is. There's good reason why this game is utterly reviled. It deserves every bit of the scorn it receives.

[J.G.C.G.]

Originally posted by BoogtehWoog:

There's a lot of problems, but here goes:

You know how the camera could be wonky 10% of the time in DMC1? Well, try it being wonky far more in DMC2. Couple that with the most floaty lock-on imaginable and it just makes combat a massive annoyance.

The enemies are utterly forgettable. They are brain dead on top of it. And you really have no reason to care about what attacks you do. It just doesn't really matter. You don't have to learn them the way you did with DMC1.

The bosses are terrible. And I truly mean terrible. Some rank among the absolute worst bosses I've ever faced in gaming, like the Infested Chopper, Trismagia, and Jokatgulm. They are one-utterly one-dimensional, unsatisfying to battle, and needlessly tanky.

The levels are often way too large and empty for what they are. It's tedious to go through them even if they aren't overly long even at their largest. Just tons of space that went unused.

The forced platforming sections are even worse than they were in DMC1 due to the camera being worse than it was there.

The sad thing is that these are all things you really have to experience for yourself to appreciate how bad they are. It doesn't sound as bad as I say it is, I bet. And if you watch videos, you might even think "Oh, how is this that bad?" But it is. There's good reason why this game is utterly reviled. It deserves every bit of the scorn it receives.

Yeah based on all the info I think I might just watch a story synopsis and skip it

[BoogtehWoog]

There's almost no story. And the story that is there is abysmal, even worse than DMC1, which was abominable to begin with.