DMD is ridiculous...

[A Fat Chimp]

I remember there being a massive difficulty spike, but jeez, this is crazy. Nelo Angelo went from being a challenge to insane, and Griffon went from being easy to being ridiculously hard.

I don't even want to know what Nightmare will be like. So far, Nelo Angelo is the only fun one on this difficulty. If I can beat Nelo 3 without items, then that's all I care for. The rest will get cheesed super hard, except for Nightmare 1... I'll want to give him a go without items.

[Carter]

Originally posted by alexxshadenk777:

Nightmare 3 is universally considered to be the most difficult boss battle in the game. However, there's something very important you should do to make this battle less difficult.

Nightmare has 2 cores, one on top and one in the back. The more you attack them, depending on which attacks you use, the more they will crack. Each core has 3 states, blue, green and red. Blue is the default state. If you keep attacking it with any sword, eventually it turns green. While green, it has lower defense and it will take more damage but naturally it will break faster and it will stay exposed for a shorter period of time.
Once it turns red, it will have the highest defense but it will stay exposed the longest.
The problem? The game remembers which cores you've broken during the same playthrough. If you broke both cores in the first encounter, they will remain broken during the second and third encounters.

However, you can pretty much avoid either core shattering at all if you stick to using fully charged Ifrit PPKK combo, overall you will hit it fewer times and deal the most damage while DT'd. So if you've been relying on using any of the swords during DMD and you get to the third battle with both cores in the red... you're faced with a really long stressful ordeal. The best strategy (if I recall correctly) is to keep the top core blue and make the back core green in the second encounter, seeing as the back core typically stays exposed the longest of the two anyway. Avoid using any other attacks. Inferno is typically a terrible idea and the DT Auto Combo can and will shatter the core so avoid using that as well. Rule of thumb: Fully charged Ifrit PPKK all the way.

Then the safest strategy for the final stage of Nightmare 3 when it goes completely haywire, blasting lasers in all directions, is to spam Vortex with full DT and destroy it before anything hits you.

And if you think DMC1's DMD is ridiculous... wait until you get to DMC2's.

This is correct, but ill add some things, if you get swallowed by nightmare it resets the health on all of his cores, his cores can take 7 hits before breaking to green, you should be able to half health him before hitting his cores 7 times, then get swallowed. The only flaw with this is on nightmare 2 where the boss when swallowed is griffin and its a hard fight in my opinion. Other than that its by far the best way to beat him, makes him almost a joke boss imo.

[Forgot7en]

Oh yeah, I forgot the core gets reset when Nightmare catches you... thanks for posting that.

Also, Griffon gets owned by Ifrit really well too, as long as you can use fully charged Meteor at the right time. It can hit Griffon's head and torso if used right, then use Inferno when he gets close, and then PPKK its chest when he's down. Remember all three "Shadow" bosses when inside Nightmare have much less health than usual and killing "Shadow" Nelo Angelo during Nightmare 3 is necessary for the Special Bonus.

[Vergil]

Sick meme bro, am I in 2001 again?

This isn't a meme. The hardest enemy in the griphon battle is in fact the camera, it becomes a real nightmare when it start focusing at random angles where the boss isn't located at while the boss uses his skills at us and we can't even see or hear they coming. Using flight skill (by accident) really means death against griphon in higher difficulty levels because the bad camera angle pretty much helps as much as playing the game with our eyes closed.

The camera works fine against every other boss tho.

[Forgot7en]

Originally posted by Vergil:

Sick meme bro, am I in 2001 again?

The hardest enemy in the griphon battle is in fact the camera,

You spelled Griffon wrong and yes, it is a meme, people have been complaining about the camera in DMC1 since the game came out, meanwhile real gamers like me have S ranked DMD mode for fun for nearly 2 decades. You want to talk about a really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ camera? You can talk about DMC2, where it usually zooms in so much and pans so ridiculously that you usually can only see yourself occupying only 10% of the screen and/or 95% of the screen is just the floor.

[Vergil]

If people complain about the camera since 2001, then maybe it's a legit complaint rather than just a meme. The fact you can easily get S rank in the game doesn't nullify the problem.

By your elitist "real gamer" logic (as if it was something to be proud about), the complaints about the framerate drops in the DMC 3 SE PC port are memes from 2006 because I played it for over a thousand hours (a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on alternative versions + a few hundreds on steam) and I can easily get S rank in all missions with both Dante and Vergil.

The griffon camera positioning is really bad, it is far more dangerous than the boss by itself and forgetting about the boss' name doesn't invalidate my point.

[Forgot7en]

Oh, you're still going to keep saying the camera's more dangerous than the boss? Here, I think I know the right answer, hold on. I know this one... uh... giet gooder?

[Vergil]

Noice argument bro, it's almost as good as the camera during the griffon boss battles ;)

[Carter]

Originally posted by Vergil:

Noice argument bro, it's almost as good as the camera during the griffon boss battles ;)

The only one its bad on is the boat fight.

[Red Z]

Currently stuck on Nightmare. The giant Scorpion and the Griffin didn't give me much problems but this stupid Nelo did.
Now Nightmare. So annoying, doesn't even give you a chance to fight back since he just keeps attacking while his blue ball is out. What's worst is every time you die you have to do the entire level again. Doesn't matter how easy or how hard the level before that is, if I beat it once, I shouldn't have to walk 10 hallways again and kill everyone a second time. That's not challenging, that's just annoying. Just let me fail miserably at the boss over and over again until I finally beat them.

[A Fat Chimp]

Originally posted by Red Z:

Currently stuck on Nightmare. The giant Scorpion and the Griffin didn't give me much problems but this stupid Nelo did.
Now Nightmare. So annoying, doesn't even give you a chance to fight back since he just keeps attacking while his blue ball is out. What's worst is every time you die you have to do the entire level again. Doesn't matter how easy or how hard the level before that is, if I beat it once, I don't have to walk 10 hallways again and kill everyone a second time. That's not challenging, that's just annoying. Just let me fail miserably at the boss over and over again.

I just cheated and gave myself 999 yellow orbs so I could simply repeat the boss over and over. That's the sucky part of this game - if you you don't prepare for DMD, or if you're not ready for Hard... then it's a huge pain to get through, if not impossible.

[Red Z]

I just realised you are talking about a super hard mode. No, I am actually on normal for the first time. How embarrassing.

[Supa]

As of recently I actually took time to beat DMC3 on DMD and tbh I couldn't kill the last Vergil even with super costume and mass items. Like, if you don't know what to do he will just endlessly heal and never die. ...then I looked up some strats and did it w/o cheaping.

[A Fat Chimp]

Originally posted by Red Z:

I just realised you are talking about a super hard mode. No, I am actually on normal for the first time. How embarrassing.

Ah, then I would definitely recommend downloading Cheat Engine, or something of that nature. Definitely won't be fun for you - when you beat Normal, the game puts you on Hard automatically. Then you have to beat Hard before you can go back to Normal.

Alternatively, you can purposely die a few times on Mission 1, and the game will ask you if you want to go on Easy mode. However, once you go to Easy, you can never continue to Normal mode. You have to start a new game to start a Normal save.

Option 3 would be to download an existing game save. My game save has 999 yellow orbs for Normal Dante, Sparda, and Super Dante. Still in the process of completing Super Dante though.

[Vergil]

Originally posted by Supa:

As of recently I actually took time to beat DMC3 on DMD and tbh I couldn't kill the last Vergil even with super costume and mass items. Like, if you don't know what to do he will just endlessly heal and never die. ...then I looked up some strats and did it w/o cheaping.

Attack him while he's sheating his katana or after using stinger against you = ~7 free hits against him

[Siroldas]

Yeah the camera is really bad and more than half of my deaths were from it on DMD. I think the game wold be really easy if the camera was somehow good.

I loooove DMC but the camera here is bad nd I think everyone should know his by now :/