DMC3 stinger>Million stab

[Lexi]

Why cant I get this to work? I dont remember it being this hard on the ps3 version. I am physically incapable of mashing square in a realistic scenario any faster than I am.

[Director Bison]

It seems to be harder to do in this version, then before. you should get it to work if your hitting enemies since that will give you a buffer to mash attack more.

But The creator of the Style switcher mod, is updating it for the HD collection, a part of the mod was getting to reduce the number of times you have to press a button to perform a crazy combo.

[RollCaskett]

If you happen to be using Turbo mode, the timing is a bit different than usual..

[MechaMike]

Use helm breaker as a buffer AKA jump then mash attack like mad while holding forward.

[Forgot7en]

There's a bit of input lag in this version, so triggering Crazy Combos is much more difficult than in any other version. You can still buffer inputs though and having a high Style meter makes it easier to trigger all Crazy Combos.

[Lexi]

I flat out cant get it it to work. I can get million stab to work on its own, just not when trying to chain from stinger...I managed to get it twice so far and that was random sheer luck

[Rez]

You have to release lock-on after stinger and mash the attack button for it to work, unless you already tried that.

[Forgot7en]

Originally posted by Lexi:

I flat out cant get it it to work. I can get million stab to work on its own, just not when trying to chain from stinger...I managed to get it twice so far and that was random sheer luck

There's no such thing as getting it from random sheer luck, you either mashed the button enough times or you didn't.

Originally posted by whelp:

You have to release lock-on after stinger and mash the attack button for it to work, unless you already tried that.

That's wrong. It doesn't matter if you're holding lock-on or not.

[Sterming]

Well when turbo mode is off I can do Million Stab after a stinger even while it's a bit rare but can't on the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ turbo mode. And it's easier to do that while doing combo. The one that you start an attack then wait a bit and keep attacking when Dante starts to swing Rebellion horizontally then triggering a Million Stab.

[JH1000]

I truly have no idea what this "input lag" meme is since I am not getting any input lag in any of the three games. Maybe if you don't force vsync off it is true, but I can guarantee that my game has exactly the same input delay as the PS2 version played on a CRT.

Even if you are getting input delay it is illogical to claim this makes Million Stab any harder since the inputs are merely delayed and not dropped/eaten. If you've pressed the button fast enough it will trigger the attack, delayed or not.

In any case, it feels the same to me as it does on the PS2 version. It is quite hard to get it on the PS2 version on Turbo mode if you aren't very far from the enemy and obviously even harder if you are close. So all I can tell you that it's not harder than on the original PS2 version. Maybe you are using a controller which you can't mash fast with.

[Sterming]

Originally posted by Cifer:

I truly have no idea what this "input lag" meme is since I am not getting any input lag in any of the three games. Maybe if you don't force vsync off it is true, but I can guarantee that my game has exactly the same input delay as the PS2 version played on a CRT.

Even if you are getting input delay it is illogical to claim this makes Million Stab any harder since the inputs are merely delayed and not dropped/eaten. If you've pressed the button fast enough it will trigger the attack, delayed or not.

In any case, it feels the same to me as it does on the PS2 version. It is quite hard to get it on the PS2 version on Turbo mode if you aren't very far from the enemy and obviously even harder if you are close. So all I can tell you that it's not harder than on the original PS2 version. Maybe you are using a controller which you can't mash fast with.

Since you have no input lag you can't tell that "Since the inputs are merely delayed." If inputs has delayed that doesn't matter how fast you press the button because you also should start pressing on proper time.

Wtf? You just newly played on PS2 or you have played on PC when you were playing PS2 so you remember it as well? Because it is pretty old and if you played like 13 years ago and then played on PC years after than you played on PS2 it's pretty hard to remember. Screw controller, I can't even press shooting button as fast enough to stay on the air enough but I can press I as fast as I want let alone saying that it is easy to trigger Million Stab on a controller.

[JH1000]

Originally posted by Kirimasun:

Originally posted by Cifer:

I truly have no idea what this "input lag" meme is since I am not getting any input lag in any of the three games. Maybe if you don't force vsync off it is true, but I can guarantee that my game has exactly the same input delay as the PS2 version played on a CRT.

Even if you are getting input delay it is illogical to claim this makes Million Stab any harder since the inputs are merely delayed and not dropped/eaten. If you've pressed the button fast enough it will trigger the attack, delayed or not.

In any case, it feels the same to me as it does on the PS2 version. It is quite hard to get it on the PS2 version on Turbo mode if you aren't very far from the enemy and obviously even harder if you are close. So all I can tell you that it's not harder than on the original PS2 version. Maybe you are using a controller which you can't mash fast with.

Since you have no input lag you can't tell that "Since the inputs are merely delayed." If inputs has delayed that doesn't matter how fast you press the button because you also should start pressing on proper time.

Wtf? You just newly played on PS2 or you have played on PC when you were playing PS2 so you remember it as well? Because it is pretty old and if you played like 13 years ago and then played on PC years after than you played on PS2 it's pretty hard to remember. Screw controller, I can't even press shooting button as fast enough to stay on the air enough but I can press I as fast as I want let alone saying that it is easy to trigger Million Stab on a controller.

I just tested it side by side a day ago after reading about the supposed input lag and/or issues with the attacks in DMC3 triggered by mashing the button really fast (two for Rebellion, one for Cerberus and two for Agni and Rudra is all there is I think). I also checked for slowdowns not present in the console versions in certain areas. That claim also turned out to be false.

Please note that I'm not saying noone has these problems with the port, but since most people don't the cause can't be in the port itself.

And regarding the input lag argument, it does not make sense. If someone is affected by input delay then every input is affected, meaning the timing in relation to the other presses as well as the frequency willl always be the same. If you start mashing the button while holding forward to Stinger then how often you have to press the button won't change just because of the delay. It's simple logic. Maybe people mean something else than input delay and misuse the term. I don't know.

All I can tell you is that in Turbo mode you need to really mash quite fast. I recon at least 12 times per second. If you are absolutely certain something is fishy then it might be because of your game, but not the port in general because mine behaves normally.

[Sterming]

Originally posted by Cifer:

Originally posted by Kirimasun:

Since you have no input lag you can't tell that "Since the inputs are merely delayed." If inputs has delayed that doesn't matter how fast you press the button because you also should start pressing on proper time.

Wtf? You just newly played on PS2 or you have played on PC when you were playing PS2 so you remember it as well? Because it is pretty old and if you played like 13 years ago and then played on PC years after than you played on PS2 it's pretty hard to remember. Screw controller, I can't even press shooting button as fast enough to stay on the air enough but I can press I as fast as I want let alone saying that it is easy to trigger Million Stab on a controller.

I just tested it side by side a day ago after reading about the supposed input lag and/or issues with the attacks in DMC3 triggered by mashing the button really fast (two for Rebellion, one for Cerberus and two for Agni and Rudra is all there is I think). I also checked for slowdowns not present in the console versions in certain areas. That claim also turned out to be false.

Please note that I'm not saying noone has these problems with the port, but since most people don't the cause can't be in the port itself.

And regarding the input lag argument, it does not make sense. If someone is affected by input delay then every input is affected, meaning the timing in relation to the other presses as well as the frequency willl always be the same. If you start mashing the button while holding forward to Stinger then how often you have to press the button won't change just because of the delay. It's simple logic. Maybe people mean something else than input delay and misuse the term. I don't know.

All I can tell you is that in Turbo mode you need to really mash quite fast. I recon at least 12 times per second. If you are absolutely certain something is fishy then it might be because of your game, but not the port in general because mine behaves normally.

What two and one? And what slowdowns are you talking about?

Actually it does. Because that doesn't matter if every input is affected or not, if you start mashing buttons when Rebellion pause combo you should mash buttons 6 times until combo ends or so. With delayed input it will be harder to mash these buttons 6 times until it ends. So no it isn't meaning the timing in relation to the other presses as well as the frequency will always be the same because it has nothing to do with the other presses. lol. It will. If it delayed some of your presses will be missed unless if the game counts every pressing instead of just pressing after pressing. It's simple logic.

Yeah I know, it's so common to miss the Million Stab and Slash. It's said 6 times for Million Stab after Rebellion pause combo.