interesting...vergil survived dmc1

[BigLol]

I really want to know the circumstances of vergil surviving dmc1 i don't want it to be skipped over
edit:this whole thread was created because the man who cut off nero's arm in the trailer had a demon arm himself and had some patterns on his cloack that look just like vergil's
edit2:can some mod please delete this thread it has become a trashtalking thread between 2 kids

[A Fat Chimp]

Is it actually confirmed?

It's something I've been saying for a long time, Nelo Angelo's defeat left that door wide open... but I haven't seen anything in the trailer that actually confirms it. It seems likely that the cloaked guy is Vergil, but they just didn't show enough for me to be convinced of that.

As far as how he survived, the easiest explanation they could go with is that he just flew to a nearby island. The cutscene even hints at this, with how he glows white with the blue aura around him. I think the hard question will be explaining his disappearance from DMC1 to DMC5. I'm also curious about his state-of-mind... will he be back to his normal self, or will be be dealing with the repercussions of having been a puppet of Mundus?

I wouldn't be surprised if he's totally messed up.

[Forgot7en]

No, Vergil died. Period. Canonically, he's been dead since DMC1 and nothing has retconned it to date.

However, seeing as seemingly any high level demon that dies can just come back somehow, no reason why he can't escape it.

[A Fat Chimp]

Originally posted by alexxshadenk777:

No, Vergil died. Period. Canonically, he's been dead since DMC1 and nothing has retconned it to date.

However, seeing as seemingly any high level demon that dies can just come back somehow, no reason why he can't escape it.

Got proof? I've never seen a single confirmation that he died in DMC1. Nowhere at all.

[Carter]

Originally posted by A Fat Chimp:

Originally posted by alexxshadenk777:

No, Vergil died. Period. Canonically, he's been dead since DMC1 and nothing has retconned it to date.

However, seeing as seemingly any high level demon that dies can just come back somehow, no reason why he can't escape it.

Got proof? I've never seen a single confirmation that he died in DMC1. Nowhere at all.

the part where he exploded in light

[A Fat Chimp]

Originally posted by Jacob Carter:

Originally posted by A Fat Chimp:

Got proof? I've never seen a single confirmation that he died in DMC1. Nowhere at all.

the part where he exploded in light

He never exploded in light. The cutscene just shows him glow white, with a blue aura just as in prior cutscenes with similar audio effects of him flying away.

If you got proof though, I'm still waiting. There's a reason every interview always says that he was "defeated", rather than killed. ;)

[Forgot7en]

Originally posted by A Fat Chimp:

Originally posted by alexxshadenk777:

No, Vergil died. Period. Canonically, he's been dead since DMC1 and nothing has retconned it to date.

However, seeing as seemingly any high level demon that dies can just come back somehow, no reason why he can't escape it.

Got proof? I've never seen a single confirmation that he died in DMC1. Nowhere at all.

Certainly. Not that I need to, I mean, he exploded in DMC1. Regardles; ever watched the History of Devil May Cry? It came with the game.
https://youtu.be/jTTIDXVwbOE?t=70
What does "departed" mean at 1:10?
Also a direct quote from Nelo Angelo's description at 2:11:
"At the root of Nelo Angelo's chivalry lies his origins; for within the demon's body rests the soul of Vergil, Dante's vanquished brother,"
What does "vanquished" mean?

EDIT: Your next comment will be "but that's not canon."

[A Fat Chimp]

Originally posted by alexxshadenk777:

Originally posted by A Fat Chimp:

Got proof? I've never seen a single confirmation that he died in DMC1. Nowhere at all.

Certainly. Not that I need to, I mean, he exploded in DMC1. Regardles; ever watched the History of Devil May Cry? It came with the game.
https://youtu.be/jTTIDXVwbOE?t=70
What does "departed" mean at 1:10?
Also a direct quote from Nelo Angelo's description at 2:11:
"At the root of Nelo Angelo's chivalry lies his origins; for within the demon's body rests the soul of Vergil, Dante's vanquished brother,"
What does "vanquished" mean?

At 1:10, it's saying that Nelo Angelo is just a shell of Vergil. "Transformed soul" is a key piece of wording there - the Vergil we knew is dead, and Nelo Angelo is all that's left of him.

Same thing at 2:08, they're saying Vergil "died" during his encounter with Mundus, and lives on as a puppet.

So, now that I think of it, yeah, I guess you're technically right... but he dies at the end of DMC3. Nelo Angelo however, nothing suggests he's dead.

[Forgot7en]

Well I knew you were going to say something stupid. "Departed" and "vanquished" are pretty clear to me, but I guess I will just give your autism a 5/10.

[A Fat Chimp]

Originally posted by alexxshadenk777:

Well I knew you were going to say something stupid. "Departed" and "vanquished" are pretty clear to me, but I guess I will just give your autism a 5/10.

You gotta learn to read, haha. I quite clearly know what those words mean, but you have no idea what the video is even talking about.

Just read what I said, very slowly until you understand. You'll get it eventually.

[Forgot7en]

6/10

[A Fat Chimp]

Originally posted by alexxshadenk777:

6/10

With enough practice, you can bring your english skills up to an 8/10. Just keep at it.

[Forgot7en]

English*
Also, shouldn't that be "With enough practice, you would* bring your English skills up to 8/10."?

[A Fat Chimp]

Originally posted by alexxshadenk777:

English*
Also, shouldn't that be "With enough practice, you would* bring your English skills up to 8/10."?

You're right about the capitalization of English. I'm unsure about the latter. Very impressive, and yet you still don't grasp the meaning behind the video.

Here, I'll step you through it:

1:10 - "It was there that he met a demon named Nelo Angelo, the transformed soul of his departed brother Vergil"

So, this sentence does two things: introduces Nelo Angelo, and explains who he is. The first part should be pretty straight forward - it quite literally just says that Dante met Nelo Angelo. The second part is what you seem to be having trouble with. So, notice how after the comma, they immediately start with "the transformed soul". They're saying that Nelo Angelo is Dante's deceased brother, but this isn't the same as saying that Nelo Angelo is deceased himself. There's a difference there. They're making it clear that Nelo Angelo is not Vergil, but rather a corrupted form of Vergil.

2:10 - "A demonic knight who battled Dante on three occasions. Surprisingly he avoided the dirty tricks and improvised methods for which denizens of the underworld are so often known for. At the root of Nelo Angelo's chivalry lies his origins; for within the demon's body rests the soul of Vergil, Dante's vanquished brother, now a pawn subject to Mundus's machinations"

Okay, so here it should be even more clear. The second half of the paragraph is what you're not understanding properly. Here they make it clear that Vergil does indeed still exist within Nelo Angelo, as well as making it clear that they are not the same being. They end the paragraph with, "Dante's vanquished brother, now a pawn subject to Mundus's machinations". Notice how the sentence continues after "vanquished brother"? They make it clear that Nelo Angelo is now one of Mundus's pawns, present tense.

Nowhere do they state that Nelo Angelo dies, at any point.

[Forgot7en]

Please tell me more how I don't understand the video.

[PegAsi]

It's basically 100% confirmed that vergil is in DMC5. How does he play a part in the story? We have no idea.

All we know is that he cuts nero's arm off, probably in a attempt to get yamato back.

Vergil is there.
Normal vergil or corrupted? We don't know.