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ITRYIDIEICRY Apr 30, 2021 @ 9:49am
240 OR BINDS?
title, i am just about level 50 and i use the 240 system, i have been told by many people who are VERY good that i am playing very well for my level. Now however after watching the new stouty video im questioning about switching to binds, i tried it out but i really didnt like it. i prefer using my mouse as the game feel a lot more fun, im not super serious about going up the ranks(im currently inbetween plat 2/3), but i would like to improve, this isnt my main game but i do play it a lot.
So generally whats better 240 or binds?
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Strider Apr 30, 2021 @ 9:50am 
What does '240' even mean?
ITRYIDIEICRY Apr 30, 2021 @ 9:53am 
Originally posted by Strider:
What does '240' even mean?
200 hrs and you dont know what im on about lol?

the control scheme of 240 ; you control where you swing via your mouse, down = overhead up =underhand etc
Strider Apr 30, 2021 @ 9:56am 
I know the option is called 240, I'm asking what the hell does it mean.
ITRYIDIEICRY Apr 30, 2021 @ 10:06am 
Originally posted by Strider:
I know the option is called 240, I'm asking what the hell does it mean.
"default control scheme
240 refers to the default control scheme that's been talked about on the kickstarter page, in videos, etc. You left click to perform a slash and move your mouse to start the swing from any angle (from a possible 240 degrees)"
Grey Tea Latte Apr 30, 2021 @ 10:18am 
I'd highly recommend either binds or hybrid over 240. The 240 system basically forces you to telegraph your attacks beforehand, which makes it significantly harder to perform difficult to counter swing manipulation. You also have much less precision, and, in my experience at least, very often accidentaly perform something like an overhead instead of an lmb, a left hit instead of a right one, and so on.

Hybrid is a good option if you're not fully comfortable with having your attacks fully within your agency. You'll still control the left/right direction of the swing with your mouse, but have keybinds set for all of the different kinds of attacks. It's a good way to transition into using keybinds over 240 as well, but it wouldn't take too much longer if you just dove straight into binds either.

Binds is probably the best for raw control over your attacks, but if you're not yet capable of fully utilizing that yet, it may be better to stick to hybrid. As an example, You'll never do a left swing, for instance, unless you hold down your key to change swing direction. If you don't know in what circumstances doing a left sided swing over a right sided one is advantageous, than this can be an issue, as you'll no longer be doing proper mixups with your swings.
xPonzo Apr 30, 2021 @ 1:46pm 
240 all the way for me. Just learn how to predict and link combos In the direction you want, it's all in the mouse movement.

I also have enough mouse keys that each attack/alt is also binded, so I may be biased..as technically playing with both.
Nanoha Apr 30, 2021 @ 2:51pm 
Originally posted by Strider:
I know the option is called 240, I'm asking what the hell does it mean.

Why is it called 240? beats me, it's from Chiv but it's the system where you move your mouse in a direction to choose an angle of attack. 240 seems a bit of an arbitrary choice but it is divisible by 6... I'm sure someone will have the answer.

240 is very intuitive but often doesn't do what you want it to do. I'm sure you've done an overhead when you wanted a horizontal swing and so forth. They make chambering very easy. Binds are exact but you obviously need a lot of buttons and chambering with them can be very difficult.

Hybrid works the best in my opinion but it depends how many buttons you have available. Default 'strike' on left mouse is just essential to me, all the rest is free game. Having dedicated left/right swings is great and lets you do some fancy stuff that just isn't possible with 240. For example you can't be rotating to your left while swinging from the right (You'll end up doing a left swing) - that's not totally true, you can reverse the way it works but... Want to block left and do a fast accel? Chances are with 240 you'll end up doing a left swing but the better option would be a right swing.

Pros and cons, choose both and go hybrid.
Last edited by Nanoha; Apr 30, 2021 @ 2:54pm
You definitely want to have your attack direction bound on keys (the traditional way)
At least if youre dueling. Movement/Animation spaming/chambering all need last ms button presses and bound keys work for that
Friendly Apr 30, 2021 @ 3:24pm 
240 is fine, at the very least it is more than fine for casual play. Keybinds will let you do animations that would be difficult with 240 I imagine though.
Void Apr 30, 2021 @ 4:38pm 
I use hybrid. I have 240 on lmb but I also have a couple more binds.
Overhead = scroll down
Stab = scroll up
Underhand = side button
You can use Alt to mirror a bind. I find it easier to use 240 to chamber though.
Also, for those that use 240 (or hybrid), in the options there is a very important setting called "invert attack direction".
Last edited by Void; Apr 30, 2021 @ 4:38pm
Mary Apr 30, 2021 @ 7:48pm 
I keep my swings bound to the movement keys, I figure I start swinging like an idiot from the smallest movement of the mouse if I leave it on the mouse-control, and it's incredibly detrimental (for me, anyway) if you're fighting more than one person.
bubblegumrockya Apr 30, 2021 @ 9:31pm 
first I've heard of 240, but using binds in combination with mouse movements is the best way to go in order to remain unpredictable
DDRMANIAC007 Apr 30, 2021 @ 10:08pm 
I use hybrid. Mouse 1 is 240 strike, scroll up is 240 stab, scroll down is overhead, side button is underhand, alt is mirror attack, and I also have clicking in my mouse wheel as alt strike. (For JPEG accel ripostes)
Tomasz12345678 Apr 30, 2021 @ 10:23pm 
Originally posted by ITRYIDIEICRY:
Originally posted by Strider:
What does '240' even mean?
200 hrs and you dont know what im on about lol?

the control scheme of 240 ; you control where you swing via your mouse, down = overhead up =underhand etc
no one calls it that its just default or binds
Originally posted by Tomasz12345678:
Originally posted by ITRYIDIEICRY:
200 hrs and you dont know what im on about lol?

the control scheme of 240 ; you control where you swing via your mouse, down = overhead up =underhand etc
no one calls it that its just default or binds

Everyone calls it that unless they are new. Not knowing what 240 is at this point is a personal problem.
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