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Chick-Magnet Dec 6, 2020 @ 12:58am
If DPI does not affect accels?
Why does it seem as though some people can accel the same weapons im using faster than i can accel them? or even accel a slower weapon faster than the one im already attacking with? what might i be doing wrong?
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BigJ Dec 6, 2020 @ 1:01am 
They are probably also doing the accel with footwork.
Nanoha Dec 6, 2020 @ 2:53am 
Originally posted by ChicagoFootman:
Why does it seem as though some people can accel the same weapons im using faster than i can accel them? or even accel a slower weapon faster than the one im already attacking with? what might i be doing wrong?

There is a turn cap so higher dpi/sensitivity usually hits that cap so any additional turn is counter productive (you end up doing glancing blows for 4 damage). I'm no pro but a few things you can: Move away from the swing, e.g. if you are swinging from the right you can try to run forward and to their right. you can try turning before you attack, dedicated keybinds helps here, looking right to initiate a right attack and then having to look left to accel is going to slow you down, would be better if you could look left while initiating a right strike without ever needing to look right. Finally some people just seem to look through their ears so you are already there when the weapon starts to swing (good job 3rd person).
Riposte accels and footwork. That’s all it is. DPI has no effect whatsoever. As a matter of fact the less you move and the smoother it is the harder to read and the better your drags/accels will be.
DPI does have an effect, it's that obvious, there is a Cap but it does.. Don't deny it lmao
BigJ Dec 6, 2020 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by CrimzonEmpire:
DPI does have an effect, it's that obvious, there is a Cap but it does.. Don't deny it lmao
It is, if you play with extremeply low DPI you'll suffer, medium 90/80 hits the cap reliably.
Originally posted by ۞Big J۞:
Originally posted by CrimzonEmpire:
DPI does have an effect, it's that obvious, there is a Cap but it does.. Don't deny it lmao
It is, if you play with extremeply low DPI you'll suffer, medium 90/80 hits the cap reliably.

I have a 20 dollarwireless logictech mouse w garbage dpi I play w on my laptop and a 12000 dpi razor I play w when I’m at home. No difference whatsoever. As a matter of fact I have my gaming mouse on the lowest dpi setting.

People who complain about dpi, or accels or drags in anyway for that matter, are just not as experienced as they think they are.

Add me, I’d be happy to teach you how to drag and accel properly. As well as how to mask your telegraphs so your attacks are harder to read.
Deric Carter Dec 7, 2020 @ 10:31pm 
Yeah, Dev's just need to stop listening to Cheeselords, Since, they are literally the type of players that could give to ♥♥♥♥♥ if this game exists or not. They're Feedback is what is in the best interest to be a cheeselord.

The Footwork they are referring to, is Swinging while you aren't actually aiming at them. Since the Devs have YET to nerf Full Damage on initial swing. It allows for the moment the blade is active in it's swing that it'll yield full damage.

The Drag mentioned before where you drag it and it does like 4 damage at the end of swing. IS what needs to be implimented with initial swing as well. Full Damage should occur at mid arc, and I don't feel like the game coding or developers could possibly impliment that. I could be wrong. But then you'll have ONLY the Cheeselords crying about it. They'll probably flame my post because... like I said, The Cheeselords will cry for their own invested interests and they are the same people that could give a rats ass if the Game crashes and burns, they'll just move onto something else to cheese.
BigJ Dec 7, 2020 @ 10:38pm 
Originally posted by Deric Carter:
Yeah, Dev's just need to stop listening to Cheeselords, Since, they are literally the type of players that could give to ♥♥♥♥♥ if this game exists or not. They're Feedback is what is in the best interest to be a cheeselord.

The Footwork they are referring to, is Swinging while you aren't actually aiming at them. Since the Devs have YET to nerf Full Damage on initial swing. It allows for the moment the blade is active in it's swing that it'll yield full damage.

The Drag mentioned before where you drag it and it does like 4 damage at the end of swing. IS what needs to be implimented with initial swing as well. Full Damage should occur at mid arc, and I don't feel like the game coding or developers could possibly impliment that. I could be wrong. But then you'll have ONLY the Cheeselords crying about it. They'll probably flame my post because... like I said, The Cheeselords will cry for their own invested interests and they are the same people that could give a rats ass if the Game crashes and burns, they'll just move onto something else to cheese.
Footwork while it aids woth accels and was planned since the tutorial also helps for stamina run away and dodging.

Also if you want stamina battles by making a core gameplay mechanic explained in the tutorial go play chiv 2. Better known for the stam battles you'll have with clunkier anims.
COMP DBD 1V1 Dec 8, 2020 @ 10:50am 
there is a physical cap to turning, its a specific ratio but you will quickly notice what it is if you set your dpi to 800 and ingame sens to 2, then bumping the dpi higher say 1600 and noticing it didnt do anything because your past the cap

people are acceling much faster because they are also using their turncapping their wep + body leaning into the direction + lunge + flanking your side to create a near perfect 0frame attack

so to visualize this, say you got a riposte on your right side, so you need to start sprinting at the guys face, press W and A with sprint, run past his left side, then pull your mouse as hard as you can to the left and this will produce an insanely fast attack
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EmotionallyBroken Dec 8, 2020 @ 11:39am 
Originally posted by ChicagoFootman:
Why does it seem as though some people can accel the same weapons im using faster than i can accel them? or even accel a slower weapon faster than the one im already attacking with? what might i be doing wrong?
latency may also be a factor, what appears to happen abnormally on the receiving end, might have been executef normally on the triggering end. This is often overlooked in games.
EmotionallyBroken Dec 8, 2020 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by Deric Carter:

The Footwork they are referring to, is Swinging while you aren't actually aiming at them. Since the Devs have YET to nerf Full Damage on initial swing. It allows for the moment the blade is active in it's swing that it'll yield full damage.

The Drag mentioned before where you drag it and it does like 4 damage at the end of swing. IS what needs to be implimented with initial swing as well. Full Damage should occur at mid arc, and I don't feel like the game coding or developers could possibly impliment that. I could be wrong. But then you'll have ONLY the Cheeselords crying about it. They'll probably flame my post because... like I said, The Cheeselords will cry for their own invested interests and they are the same people that could give a rats ass if the Game crashes and burns, they'll just move onto something else to cheese.
Basically why I havent bought the game yet. I dont want to buy a game thats basically chivalry with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ combat physics that are about unrealistically exploiting movement mechanics that make no sense turning it into some kind of game of who can out exploit who with unrealism.
Mountain King Dec 8, 2020 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by LoPan:
Originally posted by ۞Big J۞:
It is, if you play with extremeply low DPI you'll suffer, medium 90/80 hits the cap reliably.

I have a 20 dollarwireless logictech mouse w garbage dpi I play w on my laptop and a 12000 dpi razor I play w when I’m at home. No difference whatsoever. As a matter of fact I have my gaming mouse on the lowest dpi setting.

People who complain about dpi, or accels or drags in anyway for that matter, are just not as experienced as they think they are.

Add me, I’d be happy to teach you how to drag and accel properly. As well as how to mask your telegraphs so your attacks are harder to read.

Where to even begin with this post, lmao... "I have two mice both set to low DPI and there's no difference" Wowee zowee, did you need to call in NASA scientists to reach that conclusion? The entire purpose of changing those settings is to change the speed at which your mouse turns you, the fact that there is a cap to prevent people from cranking the settings to ridiculous levels and obtaining an unfair advantage doesn't change the fact that the settings still work as intended. Stop being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ obtuse, nobody "complained" about it but merely stated a fact you feel the need to dispute.
Originally posted by Samael:
Originally posted by LoPan:

I have a 20 dollarwireless logictech mouse w garbage dpi I play w on my laptop and a 12000 dpi razor I play w when I’m at home. No difference whatsoever. As a matter of fact I have my gaming mouse on the lowest dpi setting.

People who complain about dpi, or accels or drags in anyway for that matter, are just not as experienced as they think they are.

Add me, I’d be happy to teach you how to drag and accel properly. As well as how to mask your telegraphs so your attacks are harder to read.

Where to even begin with this post, lmao... "I have two mice both set to low DPI and there's no difference" Wowee zowee, did you need to call in NASA scientists to reach that conclusion? The entire purpose of changing those settings is to change the speed at which your mouse turns you, the fact that there is a cap to prevent people from cranking the settings to ridiculous levels and obtaining an unfair advantage doesn't change the fact that the settings still work as intended. Stop being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ obtuse, nobody "complained" about it but merely stated a fact you feel the need to dispute.


No dude. You are 100% wrong. Get over it. You can only turn at a certain LOCKED..... let me say it again.... LOCKED speed once you start your swings windup. If you have your sensitivity set to max and dpi to max.... you will still be slowed to that LOCKED turncap speed DURING YOUR WIND UP AND RELEASE swings....


Any turning spinning around like a helicopter BEFORE or AFTER you swing your weapon is irrelevant, because it will still be a locked speed while attacking.

I can’t possibly dumb this simple ass mechanic down to you dunces any more.

You either get it and work on your footwork and where the start and end of your weapons tracers are.... or you keep making pretend excuses to avoid actually learning the mechanics and bettering yourself.
Last edited by Look at my bats dick; Dec 8, 2020 @ 2:57pm
Chick-Magnet Dec 8, 2020 @ 11:09pm 
That sprinting twords enemies thing actually works pretty well, i didnt know you could sprint while attacking. Seems most players can just hard read to an autistic degree and already have a plan for everything
Deric Carter Mar 18, 2021 @ 1:14pm 
Yep, I've met more and more people that refuse to even buy the game let alone try it simply because they've seen way to many Streamers showing off the near perfect Exploitation of movement combined with the game physics to out play someone. It works very well, Even when I do it, I feel like a Dirty Cheeselord. I feel with the games tweaks to this swing movement cap it's their efforts to curve it. And Devs had made great strides in those directions. Still not perfect though. Sprinting into a swing is Hollywood BS.

I still firmly believe that there should be a 3 phase Damage applier, Intiital swing 20% of the Radius nerfed to 70% Damage since the kinetic energy would've have been built up to do full on damage.

another 70% of the swing should be absolute full damage, and the remaining 10% of the swing should be nerfed much like it is now where it does like 5 damage. whatever that equals in % based on weapon.

I believe that would cuck out the Obnoxious Sprint rapid swing movement exploit that would ONLY work in a Hollywood cheeselord movie. Try that ♥♥♥♥ IRL and you'd get face stomped. IMHO
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Date Posted: Dec 6, 2020 @ 12:58am
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