shields now literally useless

[Powercrank]

here let me just use my ♥♥♥♥♥♥ held block mode against your faster kicks lmao

[jedi-hamster (>'_')> =O]

Shield is very hard to deal with if you use it properly

[Tiny Rick]

The block update combined with the delay after the blocking pretty much ruined the shield class for me and i´ll probably won´t play the game for at least some time now.

[C'mon man]

nothing of value lost

[Shooty Manz]

Originally posted by jedi-hamster (>'_')> =O:

Shield is very hard to deal with if you use it properly

Shields were NEVER hard to deal with if used properly.

Kick > Shields since the game was released. Also you can just literally walk around them.

Shields block your view like mad even though you would be peaking over it IRL and have more vision as video games can't replicate the human vision (just like how looking down iron sights in shooters wouldn't actually block your vision IRL).

Shields IRL were insanely good in a fight whether it was 1v1 or 1vX. In Mordhau, they are practically worthless. You will always be doing less work than the guy who is whirling around with his big 2 hander. Always.

Why bring a shield and risk using a 1 handed weapon with short reach and get kicked spammed to death when you can just bring a big beefy 2 hander and cleave heads?

They need to stop pooping on shields and make them a viable option just like other weapons. Because of kicks, there is no "niche" for shields to hold gates or choke points. I would LOVE to see this, but because the stupid kick mechanic exists, we will never see it.

Honestly, just get rid of kicks and add a stamina cost to blocking various hits. This would make bringing the Maul, Mace, and Sledgehammer more viable. Given the shields currently are made of wood too, you could even have shields need durability and can only take so many hits. That would be a neat mechanic.

But no, for now we are stuck with poopy shields that have no use. Anyone trying to "hold the line" with shields is just going to get kick spammed down and fire potted.

At least Bucklers and Targes can be thrown now hilariously enough.

gg

[Look at my bats dick]

Originally posted by DAWI SPECIAL FORCES:

Originally posted by jedi-hamster (>'_')> =O:

Shield is very hard to deal with if you use it properly

Shields were NEVER hard to deal with if used properly.

Kick > Shields since the game was released. Also you can just literally walk around them.

Shields block your view like mad even though you would be peaking over it IRL and have more vision as video games can't replicate the human vision (just like how looking down iron sights in shooters wouldn't actually block your vision IRL).

Shields IRL were insanely good in a fight whether it was 1v1 or 1vX. In Mordhau, they are practically worthless. You will always be doing less work than the guy who is whirling around with his big 2 hander. Always.

Why bring a shield and risk using a 1 handed weapon with short reach and get kicked spammed to death when you can just bring a big beefy 2 hander and cleave heads?

They need to stop pooping on shields and make them a viable option just like other weapons. Because of kicks, there is no "niche" for shields to hold gates or choke points. I would LOVE to see this, but because the stupid kick mechanic exists, we will never see it.

Honestly, just get rid of kicks and add a stamina cost to blocking various hits. This would make bringing the Maul, Mace, and Sledgehammer more viable. Given the shields currently are made of wood too, you could even have shields need durability and can only take so many hits. That would be a neat mechanic.

But no, for now we are stuck with poopy shields that have no use. Anyone trying to "hold the line" with shields is just going to get kick spammed down and fire potted.

At least Bucklers and Targes can be thrown now hilariously enough.

gg

You know what beat shields irl historically?

You guessed it. Kicks.

[MrPistachio]

Originally posted by Ħ LoPan:

You know what beat shields irl historically?

You guessed it. Kicks.

Not really. Good luck kicking a guy with his shield up because he's just going to stab over it into your face with his sword or spear. In reality, your best hope was grabbing it with a free hand and pulling it down while swinging at their face, or using a hook.

[7PAST3PRESENT3FUTURE1剔除]

good

[sparrowbird611]

I think you move and turn a little TOO slowly during the block phase, and that transitional phase that leaves you slow and unable to do anything is annoying, but I kind of like this change. Seems nice, especially now that axes don't seem to be doing extra stamina damage. I think the stamina negation on both kite and heater should be raised a bit, and the things I mentioned changed, and they'll be fine.

[Iron Monkey]

Yea I don't get it, there is no reason to keep nerfing shields. The only problem shields ever had was that the kick was so pitiful to use as a counter. But all they did was buff the kick which was needed but then kept nerfing the shields since.

Since release every single update has been one stop forward and two steps back.

[Powercrank]

Originally posted by sparrowbird611:

I think you move and turn a little TOO slowly during the block phase, and that transitional phase that leaves you slow and unable to do anything is annoying, but I kind of like this change. Seems nice, especially now that axes don't seem to be doing extra stamina damage. I think the stamina negation on both kite and heater should be raised a bit, and the things I mentioned changed, and they'll be fine.

except the new block mode is literally useless against anyone with half a brain because there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop a kick. the only way it will be "better for choke points" (as the patch notes say) is if the entire enemy team suddenly forgets how to kick.

i honestly can't wrap my mind around how stupid this design change is. at least let me use kicks to counter kicks while in block stance.

[Knight Commander Martellus]

Originally posted by Ħ LoPan:

Originally posted by DAWI SPECIAL FORCES:

Shields were NEVER hard to deal with if used properly.

Kick > Shields since the game was released. Also you can just literally walk around them.

Shields block your view like mad even though you would be peaking over it IRL and have more vision as video games can't replicate the human vision (just like how looking down iron sights in shooters wouldn't actually block your vision IRL).

Shields IRL were insanely good in a fight whether it was 1v1 or 1vX. In Mordhau, they are practically worthless. You will always be doing less work than the guy who is whirling around with his big 2 hander. Always.

Why bring a shield and risk using a 1 handed weapon with short reach and get kicked spammed to death when you can just bring a big beefy 2 hander and cleave heads?

They need to stop pooping on shields and make them a viable option just like other weapons. Because of kicks, there is no "niche" for shields to hold gates or choke points. I would LOVE to see this, but because the stupid kick mechanic exists, we will never see it.

Honestly, just get rid of kicks and add a stamina cost to blocking various hits. This would make bringing the Maul, Mace, and Sledgehammer more viable. Given the shields currently are made of wood too, you could even have shields need durability and can only take so many hits. That would be a neat mechanic.

But no, for now we are stuck with poopy shields that have no use. Anyone trying to "hold the line" with shields is just going to get kick spammed down and fire potted.

At least Bucklers and Targes can be thrown now hilariously enough.

gg

You know what beat shields irl historically?

You guessed it. Kicks.

You are very historically stupid.

[Windows xD]

I also don't how there's no medium length spear in the game. There's either a short spear for one hand or a long spear for two hands. If you want to use a spear+shield combo, having a longer spear would be much better instead of that pathetic short spear.

[Lo Burattino]

this change doesn't make any sense, at this point I could just use the targe or nothing at all, the people who support it say that shields were too easy and weren't fun before it, but it doesnt make any sense either

[sparrowbird611]

Originally posted by Powerbeard:

Originally posted by sparrowbird611:

I think you move and turn a little TOO slowly during the block phase, and that transitional phase that leaves you slow and unable to do anything is annoying, but I kind of like this change. Seems nice, especially now that axes don't seem to be doing extra stamina damage. I think the stamina negation on both kite and heater should be raised a bit, and the things I mentioned changed, and they'll be fine.

except the new block mode is literally useless against anyone with half a brain because there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop a kick. the only way it will be "better for choke points" (as the patch notes say) is if the entire enemy team suddenly forgets how to kick.

i honestly can't wrap my mind around how stupid this design change is. at least let me use kicks to counter kicks while in block stance.

Kind of why I said that the transition phase that leaves you vulnerable needs to go, and movement and turn cap should be buffed a bit. That way it's not completely useless.

In other news, a regular parry can block a kick, but held block can't. Kinda stupid. Honestly think either both should block, or neither should.

[Look at my bats dick]

Originally posted by Emperor Karl Franz:

Originally posted by Ħ LoPan:

You know what beat shields irl historically?

You guessed it. Kicks.

You are very historically stupid.

Ikr? But

https://youtu.be/WKn4FmzAQ44

For extra salt in shield using wound.