Visored barbute is ballz

[[IPL][Guest]Tsagaan_Mongol]

Delet plz, the only "finding" is a fake created by unethical historians in order to have something "special" in their museum. More info on Ian Laspina's or Skallagrim's channel, not sure which one tbh.
Anyway delet it it ain't a meme it's a serious offence!

[turbogum]

Originally posted by Shunrai:

wat

He's saying that visored barbute is not a historically accurate helmet.

[METHSTROKE]

Originally posted by ChagataiTheMongol:

Delet plz, the only "finding" is a fake created by unethical historians in order to have something "special" in their museum. More info on Ian Laspina's or Skallagrim's channel, not sure which one tbh.
Anyway delet it it ain't a meme it's a serious offence!

Proof?

I love skalla but I’ll trust you when YOU back up your argument

[Max Power]

It's not historically accurate but this is a silly request tbh. Also best to avoid the "Accuracy" debate 'round these parts, fair warning.

[RokuroCarisu]

Even if it hasn't been done historically, I'd say it isn't unreasonable to add a visor to a barbute. Definitely less so than throwing your pommel to end your opponent rightly.

[meraco]

Originally posted by ChagataiTheMongol:

it's a serious offence!

To whom?

I am not offended...

[TotallynotaBot]

Originally posted by ChagataiTheMongol:

Delet plz, the only "finding" is a fake created by unethical historians in order to have something "special" in their museum. More info on Ian Laspina's or Skallagrim's channel, not sure which one tbh.
Anyway delet it it ain't a meme it's a serious offence!

90% of this game is not historically accurate.This is the medieval equivalent of COD or Fortnite. Unfortunatly the devs went arcade with historical elements not medieval combat sim.

I'm suprised you'd be triggered by the Visored barbute and not many of the other fantasy stuff.

[sparrowbird611]

Bards. Black knights (Flesh wound users, look at monty python). Peasants on the battlefield. Rapier users fighting viking. And this is the issue you choose to pursue?

[[IPL][Guest]Tsagaan_Mongol]

Originally posted by RokuroCarisu:

Even if it hasn't been done historically, I'd say it isn't unreasonable to add a visor to a barbute. Definitely less so than throwing your pommel to end your opponent rightly.

If the visor didn't also cover the cheek protecting part it would make some sense, unfortunately doing it in the way it's done in the game is unreasonable, because you already have a lot of face protection without visor - adding it is unnecessary and increases the weight tremendously.

Originally posted by sparrowbird611:

Bards. Black knights (Flesh wound users, look at monty python). Peasants on the battlefield. Rapier users fighting viking. And this is the issue you choose to pursue?

Originally posted by Goldfish:

It's not historically accurate but this is a silly request tbh. Also best to avoid the "Accuracy" debate 'round these parts, fair warning.

I totally agree with your points! I'd like to notice, though, that it's not a competely serious post (I thought the way in which I described the issue was ridiculous enough, I guess I could've gone with some lulz in the end or use wrong "its") . BUTT the point still stands because:
1.It's imo the best looking visored helmet in the game and my inner struggle between buying it and not using bad designs had to be externalized in some manner :v
2.As a thing that's not obviously fantasy/ridiculous/arcade, for a random player it might appear as a visualisation of an actual historical example which is going to spread disinformation (and is very sneaky while doing so! :P). I mean come on, it worked on actual historians and archeologists, why wouldn't it on people who know nothing about the topic!

If I had any serious complaints about "historicality" or "accuracy" - it would be overswings (which, I think, are the main cause of techs like spinning attacks and weird-ass drags) and the way armour works. Damage/armour system of War of The Roses was IMHO much better (if we forget how poorly implemented it was). But I don't complain about these things because the game is still fun and these notions are something you bring up during the design phase or in very early tests.

[Karnage]

Of course it isn't real. The entire point of the barbute was to have a helmet that didn't require a visor. However, we're all mercenaries acquiring our own gear. I just see it as a silly custom order helmet.

[Kodiak]

Originally posted by sparrowbird611:

Bards. Black knights (Flesh wound users, look at monty python). Peasants on the battlefield. Rapier users fighting viking. And this is the issue you choose to pursue?

Well peasants on the battlefield is totally legit. Many armies were like 90% peasants ;)

[Max Power]

Originally posted by GER Kodiak:

Well peasants on the battlefield is totally legit. Many armies were like 90% peasants ;)

Technically, but they weren't dressed as peasants per-se, that is to say they usually wore gambesons at least and didn't run around with frying pans, scythes or tree-branches. Most of the time.

[METHSTROKE]

Originally posted by Son of Sigmar:

Originally posted by ChagataiTheMongol:

Delet plz, the only "finding" is a fake created by unethical historians in order to have something "special" in their museum. More info on Ian Laspina's or Skallagrim's channel, not sure which one tbh.
Anyway delet it it ain't a meme it's a serious offence!

90% of this game is not historically accurate.This is the medieval equivalent of COD or Fortnite. Unfortunatly the devs went arcade with historical elements not medieval combat sim.

I'm suprised you'd be triggered by the Visored barbute and not many of the other fantasy stuff.

Unfortunately?

[Karnage]

Originally posted by Goldfish:

Originally posted by GER Kodiak:

Well peasants on the battlefield is totally legit. Many armies were like 90% peasants ;)

Technically, but they weren't dressed as peasants per-se, that is to say they usually wore gambesons at least and didn't run around with frying pans, scythes or tree-branches. Most of the time.

It depends on the role, unit, country, etc. Military standards in Europe were becoming strict during this time and thus fighting was usually reserved for people of at least some wealth to ensure they were mostly properly trained and outfitted. However, if a country and its people weren't wealthy enough, there would be units reserved for those without proper battle attire, let alone appropriate weaponry. Of course certain roles in the battlefield didn't require these things. With that said, it's worth pointing out that we are mercenaries.

So these standards don't apply to us unless our benefactor demands it. That's also why I'm ok with the purely fantasy based visored barbute. I just view it as a silly custom order helmet for a mercenary. Similar oddities certainly exist.