Why do you hate shields?

[Ash]

I never had any trouble killing shielded enemies. Where would the problem be, then?
In my opinion, no fix is needed. But if you really can't manage to win against the shields, then a small nerf could satisfy you. However, I don't think it is right to satisfy those who can't win because of poor talent.

[Avlaen]

Originally posted by DanteYoda:

Originally posted by Canoness Avlaen:

i hate shields because they are trash and youd be better off with a 2h, honestly shields do nothing useful

Disagree two handers are what needs a slight nerf they are far too fast.. that or 1 handers need a speed up.

so your basicaly agreeing that shields are trash because they force you to subpar 1hers? (except rapiers)

[RedSpear]

Originally posted by Fawks:

Originally posted by WolfTheRed:

Most people dont have leg armor and most shields don't cover the legs.

Instead for stabbing or swinging horizontally try out attacking bottom/top.

If we COULD actually hit OVER or UNDER the shield, that would be fantastic, but the sad reality is that the shields seem to emit an invisible force field blocking everything way past their physical position

For now I'll do just this:
Attack top then bottom
Attack top, faint, then bottom
Stab, then bottom
Stab, faint, then bottom

Shield should block 1 step attacks.

And spear and shield will and should always be the bane of 2h lonewolfs. 2hands also block "way past their physical position"

[RedSpear]

Originally posted by Canoness Avlaen:

Originally posted by DanteYoda:

Disagree two handers are what needs a slight nerf they are far too fast.. that or 1 handers need a speed up.

so your basicaly agreeing that shields are trash because they force you to subpar 1hers? (except rapiers)

So what your are hearing him saying is?

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Canoness Avlaen:

Originally posted by DanteYoda:

Disagree two handers are what needs a slight nerf they are far too fast.. that or 1 handers need a speed up.

so your basicaly agreeing that shields are trash because they force you to subpar 1hers? (except rapiers)

1 handers by definition should be faster than two handers by size weight and wieldiness..

[CiZerin]

I like shields in all kind of games, but here it's pretty weak against skillfull 2h players. I'm shield+mace user and most of time I prefer to chamber, not parry with shield. And holding shield only in situations when I'm zerged and need to backpeddaling to my teammates.
In fact, I use shield only because I like shields. And if I wouldn't I'll switch to 2h for sure.

[Avlaen]

Originally posted by CiZerin:

I like shields in all kind of games, but here it's pretty weak against skillfull 2h players. I'm shield+mace user and most of time I prefer to chamber, not parry with shield. And holding shield only in situations when I'm zerged and need to backpeddaling to my teammates.
In fact, I use shield only because I like shields. And if I wouldn't I'll switch to 2h for sure.

same, the only reason my 2 shield loadotus have a shield is aesthetics/cosplay reasons

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by CiZerin:

I like shields in all kind of games, but here it's pretty weak against skillfull players. I'm shield+mace user and most of time I prefer to chamber, not parry with shield. And holding shield only in situations when I'm zerged and need to backpeddaling to my teammates.
In fact, I use shield only because I like shields. And if I wouldn't I'll switch to 2h for sure.

Same i'd use more 2 handers if i was any good with them but parrying with latency is hard as..

[Avlaen]

Originally posted by DanteYoda:

Originally posted by CiZerin:

I like shields in all kind of games, but here it's pretty weak against skillfull players. I'm shield+mace user and most of time I prefer to chamber, not parry with shield. And holding shield only in situations when I'm zerged and need to backpeddaling to my teammates.
In fact, I use shield only because I like shields. And if I wouldn't I'll switch to 2h for sure.

Same i'd use more 2 handers if i was any good with them but parrying with latency is hard as..

About.. 10% of the enemies i fight have a shield, but steam forums will ♥♥♥♥♥ about even the worst thing in the game being op lol

[CiZerin]

Originally posted by Canoness Avlaen:

Originally posted by CiZerin:

I like shields in all kind of games, but here it's pretty weak against skillfull 2h players. I'm shield+mace user and most of time I prefer to chamber, not parry with shield. And holding shield only in situations when I'm zerged and need to backpeddaling to my teammates.
In fact, I use shield only because I like shields. And if I wouldn't I'll switch to 2h for sure.

same, the only reason my 2 shield loadotus have a shield is aesthetics/cosplay reasons

So true. I had loadout Short Spear + Targe just to cosplay Spartan Warrior. But in fact all you can do is stab all the day and shield was just for cosmetic reason in that way, because it's just don't do anything you can't do without it. It was so boring that I quit this build and switched to mace + kite shield 'tank' (I also tried BS + shield and Messer + shield, but scull crash sound from mace is too adorable, lol).
Shields can't bash and\or push, u can't stab behind shield and all other things, you know, irl shield was cappable to do. All you can do with shield is holding block loosing any offensive capability with reduced vision, huge turning speed and no counter-attack moves.

[Avlaen]

Originally posted by CiZerin:

Originally posted by Canoness Avlaen:

same, the only reason my 2 shield loadotus have a shield is aesthetics/cosplay reasons

So true. I had loadout Short Spear + Targe just to cosplay Spartan Warrior. But in fact all you can do is stab all the day and shield was just for cosmetic reason in that way, because it's just don't do anything you can't do without it. It was so boring that I quit this build and switched to mace + kite shield 'tank' (I alsow tried BS + shield and Messer + shield, but scull crash sound from mace is too adorable, lol).
Shields can't bash and\or push, u can't stab behind shield and all other things, you know, irl shield was cappable to do. All you can do with shield is holding block loosing any offensive capability with reduced vision, huge turning speed and no counter-attack moves.

I have a mace/shield/bear trap laod out to RP as an arbites from 40k, but eh i could not have the shield and not notice lol

[Valinov]

I simply don't like them because kicks have less range than fists. Also people say 'JusT gO aRounD thEm, TheiR tURn rATe is bAd wITh sHielD uP", yea, that works well in theory, until you realize they can just drop their shield, turn, and pop it back up almost instantly. I've also done a lot of testing and only the buckler has any noticeable gaps in the front, so good luck stabbing someone with a kite shield in the face or feet. I shouldn't feel the need to chivalry breakdance just to get a swing around someone's shield because there is next to zero drawbacks for them.

[Avlaen]

Originally posted by Valinov:

I simply don't like them because kicks have less range than fists. Also people say 'JusT gO aRounD thEm, TheiR tURn rATe is bAd wITh sHielD uP", yea, that works well in theory, until you realize they can just drop their shield, turn, and pop it back up almost instantly. I've also done a lot of testing and only the buckler has any noticeable gaps in the front, so good luck stabbing someone with a kite shield in the face or feet. I shouldn't feel the need to chivalry breakdance just to get a swing around someone's shield because there is next to zero drawbacks for them.

Then how about we make kick not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ god awful (kick isnt a 100% anti shield tool) rather than nerf a allready bad option because bad players cant deal with it.

[Ash]

But some have even proposed banning shields. This is ridiculous, in my opinion. The game proposes different styles of medieval combat. Shields can be easily countered, trust me.
I can't explain how I do it, because ideas come to me while I face an enemy, but so far I've always enjoyed slaughtering every kind of enemy: the lancer, the swordsman, the rock ... not to boast, but I'm good;)

[RON]

No shield can withstand by Viking war axe

[Alex]

Originally posted by Evir the Warrior:

Originally posted by Jon Snow:

I never had any trouble killing shielded enemies. Where would the problem be, then?
In my opinion, no fix is needed. But if you really can't manage to win against the shields, then a small nerf could satisfy you. However, I don't think it is right to satisfy those who can't win because of poor talent.

They hate shields because they just want to spam left and right swings, they cant figure out positional work. Shields are already nerfed to the ground from what they should be. They should be physical objects that always work. But because the average gamer thinks that shields should only work when you are actively pushing a button, game developers almost universally make them cosmetic items, unless you block with them, luckily in this game they allow shields to block arrows at all times. The coding exists for them to have them work *CORRECTLY* but apparently it is too much for the 2h users to handle.

They need a rework not a nerf. Shields should break at a certain point. There shouldn't be invisible blocking, legs and sides should be vulnerable. And yes, they should block things when they are not active. I don't think its because of 2h that they changed that. Probably the people that decide to use 2 shields and would never get struck with any sort of melee blow. Trying wearing armor and move like a turtle and tell me how effective footwork is. Or maybe they should add a weight to the heavier shields.