Isn't bastard sword supposed to be longer than long-sword?

[Mourning]

The stats show bastard sword to be shorter, but historically wasn't it a bit longer than a long sword? an in-between of long-sword and great sword.

[Myta]

I think historically Long Sword was a broad term used for alot of different swords from different regions,some longer then even large Great Swords and Claymores and some shorter then some Short Swords,but overall I think the design in this game is good for both of them

[ᚠᛂᚿᚱᛁᚱ The Rat]

Originally posted by Mourning:

The stats show bastard sword to be shorter, but historically wasn't it a bit longer than a long sword? an in-between of long-sword and great sword.

No because while the longsword is supposed to be used with 2 hands only, the bastard sword can also be wielded with one hand (thats why it is called the Bastard sword) Of course there are like 100 different types of longsword (for example the Estoc is a longsword type) but the one in game seems fairly generic.

[Myta]

Originally posted by ᚠᛂᚿᚱᛁᚱ:

Originally posted by Mourning:

The stats show bastard sword to be shorter, but historically wasn't it a bit longer than a long sword? an in-between of long-sword and great sword.

No because while the longsword is supposed to be used with 2 hands only, the bastard sword can also be wielded with one hand (thats why it is called the Bastard sword) Of course there are like 100 different types of longsword (for example the Estoc is a longsword type) but the one in game seems fairly generic.

I mean I think weight and other factors come into play here when talking about IRL swords,however it's a game and the line can kind of be stretched,but I have seen and own a sword in real life which is a 1 handed sword and weighs 8+ pounds it's very strange how the weight and things of that nature work

[Space Wolf Hudson]

A long sword as it is in Mordhau is wielded in two hands, while a bastard sword is lighter and shorter so you can also wield it one handed.

[Mourning]

but I mean if you look it up the bastard sword is regarded as longer than a long sword, an in-between of longsword and greatsword.

[Pititan]

No. The hand and a half sword/bastard sword was slightly shorter than the what we would call longswords... The biggest Advantage of the hand and a half is that you could use it with just one hand just as fine as with two.

[Lordzio]

Originally posted by Mytalisis:

I mean I think weight and other factors come into play here when talking about IRL swords,however it's a game and the line can kind of be stretched,but I have seen and own a sword in real life which is a 1 handed sword and weighs 8+ pounds it's very strange how the weight and things of that nature work

Lol what? Real longswords (2 handed) weight about 3-4 pounds, and the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ zweihander is 7 pounds tops. Noone in their right mind would try to swing 8 pound sword, especially in one hand. That's wrist destruction right there. And I actually have a longsword and I use it to train HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts), so I know a bit.

Originally posted by Mourning:

but I mean if you look it up the bastard sword is regarded as longer than a long sword, an in-between of longsword and greatsword.

Actually, hand-and-half sword is a variation of a longsword. It's a bit shorter, both handle and blade wise, to maintain it's Point of Balance close enough to be usable in 1 hand. PoB is mostly 9cm from the crossguard in generic longswords, so I'd suppose hand-and-half sword would have to have it a little closer, like 5cm. It means reducing mass on the blade, which means it will be shorter.

[Mourning]

hmmm everything i've seen says bastard sword is longer than longsword *shrug*. This game is great anyways, I just thought it was strange. Maybe i'm just ignorant on the subject.

[ssss]

Originally posted by Mourning:

hmmm everything i've seen says bastard sword is longer than longsword *shrug*. This game is great anyways, I just thought it was strange. Maybe i'm just ignorant on the subject.

Some games like classic Dungeons & Dragons classify Longsword as a long 1-handed sword afaik, which is incorrect.

[Deadbubble]

Originally posted by ssss:

Originally posted by Mourning:

hmmm everything i've seen says bastard sword is longer than longsword *shrug*. This game is great anyways, I just thought it was strange. Maybe i'm just ignorant on the subject.

Some games like classic Dungeons & Dragons classify Longswords as 1-handed swords afaik, which is incorrect.

Dark Souls too. Longsword is this puny little thing, while Bastard Sword is a monster.

[Hroþa]

"Longsword" is sometimes used in pop culture in opposition to "short sword" and basically as a synonym of "arming sword". In more specialized circles, it refers to a two-handed sword.

[Serangel]

All bastard swords are long swords, but not all long swords are bastard swords. They also called hand and a half swords. They are typically a little shorter and lighter to allow both 1 hand and 2 hand use. That isn't to say you can't have a long sword on the shorter side compared to a bastard sword on the longer side. Comparing the vast variations of long swords is like comparing the vast variations of "cars".

[Strider]

What OP considers a 'longsword' is probably the one-handed variety we know from RPGs.

Official classification calls it the arming sword.

[Surfaced]

Originally posted by Lordzio:

Originally posted by Mytalisis:

I mean I think weight and other factors come into play here when talking about IRL swords,however it's a game and the line can kind of be stretched,but I have seen and own a sword in real life which is a 1 handed sword and weighs 8+ pounds it's very strange how the weight and things of that nature work

Lol what? Real longswords (2 handed) weight about 3-4 pounds, and the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ zweihander is 7 pounds tops. Noone in their right mind would try to swing 8 pound sword, especially in one hand. That's wrist destruction right there. And I actually have a longsword and I use it to train HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts), so I know a bit.

Originally posted by Mourning:

but I mean if you look it up the bastard sword is regarded as longer than a long sword, an in-between of longsword and greatsword.

Actually, hand-and-half sword is a variation of a longsword. It's a bit shorter, both handle and blade wise, to maintain it's Point of Balance close enough to be usable in 1 hand. PoB is mostly 9cm from the crossguard in generic longswords, so I'd suppose hand-and-half sword would have to have it a little closer, like 5cm. It means reducing mass on the blade, which means it will be shorter.

Ooof, 8lbs, must be one of those decorative swords. I have a combat ready bastard sword, and yeah its about 3.5 lbs. Bastard swords are generally wielded 1handed but allow for the hand and a half grip to get get more power to hack through armored opponents.