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Genghis Khan (Banned) Jun 15, 2019 @ 11:07am
Wow, Long Sword is Crap vs. Japanese Katana Samurai Sword
Wow, Long Sword is Crap vs. Japanese Katana Samurai Sword

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDkoj932YFo
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Bulawa Jun 15, 2019 @ 2:12pm 
Saying one is better than the other is redundant, as they are two different types of sword designed for different uses. The katana has an incredibly sharp edge and cuts through flesh like butter. However, the blade of a katana is quite brittle, and cannot be reliably used for defense. The katana also has little to no thrusting power, as it was made purely to cut. The longsword does not have as sharp an edge, but a properly sharpened longsword will still have a murderously sharp one. A longsword's blade is forged harder on the edge but softer in the core, allowing for both cutting and thrusting to be done reasonably well (during different periods you would see longswords with specialized blades for either cutting or thrusting, but I'm not taking those into account.). Longswords also keep an edge much better than a katana, although in modern day this can vary based on what steel was used in the swords, who made them, and what you've been cutting with them. Finally, longswords were highly popular both as battlefield weapons and as dueling weapons, whereas a katana was only actually useful in a duel. Pulling it out on the battlefield was pretty much so that you'd at least die with a weapon in your hand imo, especially around the turn of the 16th century when Japanese smiths started making full metal plate armor as opposed to the lacquered wood + small metal plates they'd used up until that point.
Gaturro Jun 15, 2019 @ 2:50pm 
Katana may outperform that particular longsword at cutting, but european longswords have many variations that can outperform katanas slashing or thrusting
Sigfig Jun 15, 2019 @ 3:14pm 
Genuine katanas were made out of ♥♥♥♥ steel because their is no iron ore deposits in japan requiring them to master their craftsmenship.
Mononymouse Jun 15, 2019 @ 3:30pm 
Originally posted by Kai_27-:
Originally posted by Golden Snowflake:
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The video I posted is essentially a response video to the video that OP posted, I don't see how that one is relevant?

How are robots with swords ever not relevant... O_O
Chad Longsword vs virgin incel weeb katana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Cdachi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanbat%C5%8D

Japanese great swords would be interesting. But aren't real Katana's just 60cm. Not very threatening tbh. Weren't samurai usually using them due to the fact that their easy to carry. Mostly used to terrorize bandits and civilians then actually military engagements.
Mumblez (Banned) Jun 15, 2019 @ 4:06pm 
Whos to say we can't apply the folding technique on long swords?
Mononymouse Jun 15, 2019 @ 4:08pm 
Originally posted by Mumble:
Whos to say we can't apply the folding technique on long swords?
You could, and they would then be great at cutting, but would lose what makes them so powerful.
Katana were only useful as a weapon against lightly armored targets, like leather, and wood in some cases.

a katana blade isn't meant to connect with anything really, so hitting actual metal armor would destroy their blades.
Mumblez (Banned) Jun 15, 2019 @ 4:11pm 
Originally posted by Golden Snowflake:
Originally posted by Mumble:
Whos to say we can't apply the folding technique on long swords?
You could, and they would then be great at cutting, but would lose what makes them so powerful.
Katana were only useful as a weapon against lightly armored targets, like leather, and wood in some cases.

a katana blade isn't meant to connect with anything really, so hitting actual metal armor would destroy their blades.
How would it LOSE anything exactly? Folding improves the durability, among other things. you could make it lighter or differently shaped. Or just more durable.
Mononymouse Jun 15, 2019 @ 4:14pm 
Originally posted by Mumble:
Originally posted by Golden Snowflake:
You could, and they would then be great at cutting, but would lose what makes them so powerful.
Katana were only useful as a weapon against lightly armored targets, like leather, and wood in some cases.

a katana blade isn't meant to connect with anything really, so hitting actual metal armor would destroy their blades.
How would it LOSE anything exactly? Folding improves the durability, among other things. you could make it lighter or differently shaped. Or just more durable.

the rigidity of the blade would allow it to shatter much easier. which would make it nearly useless for clashing swords, armor, etc. the blade would also dull faster, as nicks wouldn't deform, they would break off entirely.
Genghis Khan (Banned) Jun 15, 2019 @ 4:39pm 
Originally posted by Golden Snowflake:
the rigidity of the blade would allow it to shatter much easier. which would make it nearly useless for clashing swords, armor, etc. the blade would also dull faster, as nicks wouldn't deform, they would break off entirely.

You apparently didn't watch the video. The Katana is designed to skim past enemy swords and directly cut the opponent. In other words, if the Katana is clashing with another sword then its user is poorly skilled with the Katana.
Mononymouse Jun 15, 2019 @ 5:22pm 
Originally posted by Achilles (Brad Pitt):
Originally posted by Golden Snowflake:
the rigidity of the blade would allow it to shatter much easier. which would make it nearly useless for clashing swords, armor, etc. the blade would also dull faster, as nicks wouldn't deform, they would break off entirely.

You apparently didn't watch the video. The Katana is designed to skim past enemy swords and directly cut the opponent. In other words, if the Katana is clashing with another sword then its user is poorly skilled with the Katana.

we are talking about "what if we made longswords using "katana technology" which to me sounds silly. longsword is superior in the area's it matters in.
Edge_Master (Banned) Jun 15, 2019 @ 5:34pm 
Originally posted by Achilles (Brad Pitt):
Originally posted by Golden Snowflake:
the rigidity of the blade would allow it to shatter much easier. which would make it nearly useless for clashing swords, armor, etc. the blade would also dull faster, as nicks wouldn't deform, they would break off entirely.

You apparently didn't watch the video. The Katana is designed to skim past enemy swords and directly cut the opponent. In other words, if the Katana is clashing with another sword then its user is poorly skilled with the Katana.

All fine and dandy if the opponent is not wearing armor.
RokuroCarisu Jun 16, 2019 @ 3:40am 
That guy doesn't even know what a broadsword really is.
At 2:15 you can see that the katana doesn't cut all the way through the ice block. It just splits as soon as the blade makes contact. Hitting it with a blunt steel rod would've had the same effect.
Last edited by RokuroCarisu; Jun 16, 2019 @ 3:52am
Falke ✪ Jun 16, 2019 @ 4:04am 
who gives a ♥♥♥♥ at useless biased comparsion of sidearms when the hitreg/servers and drag/accel mechanic of mordhau is so problematic?

oh and fck off katana cause if its bend it stays bend, with a regular european sword you can fell a tree and its still ok for fighting, katana is like a virgin, if she got fcked she stays fcked
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Date Posted: Jun 15, 2019 @ 11:07am
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